Frank Herzog: The Redskins are just bad

Cush · 10-04-2004, 06:50 PM

"We owe Steve Spurrier a partial apology. The things they did to you, they're doing to Joe Gibbs"

Just said this on WUSA TV 9 (DC affiliate for CBS)

illdefined · 10-04-2004, 07:04 PM

ouch. so did he say exactly what it is they're doing?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-04-2004, 07:14 PM

That's rough.

VTSkins897 · 10-04-2004, 07:14 PM

ack!

Daseal · 10-04-2004, 07:20 PM

Steve Spurrier was able to lose and spend quite a bit less money doing it.

Hell, we woulda gone to the playoffs last year if we had Greg Williams only. No less BUgel.

MTK · 10-04-2004, 08:26 PM

We don't owe Spurrier anything. He was paid $10M for 12 wins, sorry if I don't feel bad for the man.

Gmanc711 · 10-04-2004, 08:36 PM

I agree with Matty. Although I will root for Spurrier if he goes back to college, cause I overall like the guy, I dont think we owe him anything.

SUNRA · 10-04-2004, 10:00 PM

Herzog like Wilbon is caught up in the instant gratification mode of the media and their own desire to see him succeed like Parcells and Vermeil. Fortunately, Gibbs doesn't care much of what is written about him. He's more concerned about what is said about his team and that to him is personal. He defended Brunell under harsh criticism. He will take responsibility for his own mistakes and use that energy to solve the team's problems. I'm a little surprised at Herzog but I know his feelings about this team and the desire to see it compete like it is capable of competing. No one expects anything right now from this team and that's a good thing. This team is no different than Gibb's first tenure with the team. Now watch him create a masterpiece by the six week.

Winskins · 10-04-2004, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Steve Spurrier was able to lose and spend quite a bit less money doing it.

Hell, we woulda gone to the playoffs last year if we had Greg Williams only. No less BUgel.

HAh...at least wait til the end of the season until you try to compare Spurrier to Gibbs.

I think Spurrier has some great qualities, but I don't think that Williams would have made the difference. I think the team would have still been mediocre. Just look at the player's attitudes last year. I think in order to win people have to have winning attitudes.

Daseal · 10-04-2004, 11:02 PM

I agree, Winskins. How many games did we lose on a defensive collapse at the end of the game?

SmootSmack · 10-04-2004, 11:48 PM

I'm confused Daseal. First you said we would have made the playoffs if we had Gregg Williams. Then Winskins said he doesn't think Williams would have made a difference, then you say you agree with Winskins :confused:

Daseal · 10-05-2004, 12:57 AM

whoops, forgot to quote. I agree with this part:

Quote:

I think in order to win people have to have winning attitudes.

aehs77 · 10-05-2004, 01:42 AM

I think our biggest mistake was firing marty.

That Guy · 10-05-2004, 02:24 AM

cause martys done so well in SD right?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-05-2004, 09:23 AM

In defense of Marty, SD has the worst personnel in the league. I think LT is about the only top notch guy on that roster.

10-04-2004, 06:50 PM	#1
Cush Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Northern Virginia Age: 47 Posts: 963	Frank Herzog: The Redskins are just bad "We owe Steve Spurrier a partial apology. The things they did to you, they're doing to Joe Gibbs" Just said this on WUSA TV 9 (DC affiliate for CBS)

10-04-2004, 08:36 PM	#7
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	I agree with Matty. Although I will root for Spurrier if he goes back to college, cause I overall like the guy, I dont think we owe him anything. __________________ #21

10-04-2004, 10:00 PM	#8
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Herzog like Wilbon is caught up in the instant gratification mode of the media and their own desire to see him succeed like Parcells and Vermeil. Fortunately, Gibbs doesn't care much of what is written about him. He's more concerned about what is said about his team and that to him is personal. He defended Brunell under harsh criticism. He will take responsibility for his own mistakes and use that energy to solve the team's problems. I'm a little surprised at Herzog but I know his feelings about this team and the desire to see it compete like it is capable of competing. No one expects anything right now from this team and that's a good thing. This team is no different than Gibb's first tenure with the team. Now watch him create a masterpiece by the six week. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-04-2004, 11:48 PM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I'm confused Daseal. First you said we would have made the playoffs if we had Gregg Williams. Then Winskins said he doesn't think Williams would have made a difference, then you say you agree with Winskins :confused: __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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10-04-2004, 07:04 PM	#2
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	ouch. so did he say exactly what it is they're doing?

10-04-2004, 07:14 PM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	That's rough.

10-04-2004, 07:14 PM	#4
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	ack!

10-04-2004, 07:20 PM	#5
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Steve Spurrier was able to lose and spend quite a bit less money doing it. Hell, we woulda gone to the playoffs last year if we had Greg Williams only. No less BUgel.

10-04-2004, 08:26 PM	#6
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,573	We don't owe Spurrier anything. He was paid $10M for 12 wins, sorry if I don't feel bad for the man.

10-04-2004, 11:02 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	I agree, Winskins. How many games did we lose on a defensive collapse at the end of the game?

10-05-2004, 01:42 AM	#13
aehs77 Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: silver spring Age: 39 Posts: 486	I think our biggest mistake was firing marty.

10-05-2004, 02:24 AM	#14
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	cause martys done so well in SD right?

10-05-2004, 09:23 AM	#15
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	In defense of Marty, SD has the worst personnel in the league. I think LT is about the only top notch guy on that roster.

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