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Old 09-13-2013, 11:41 AM   #1
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Re: Redskins "Name Change" Volume 10000000

Warriors is such a broad term.

If push came to shove I'd be willing to bet they would settle for that over Redskins.
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Warriors is such a broad term.

If push came to shove I'd be willing to bet they would settle for that over Redskins.
Agreed.
I believe that's what my old high school did way back when. The nickname has always been Warriors but they changed from an Native American to a Robin Hood-looking guy since the school name is Sherwood HS. I think they also use a knight sometimes. (ironically, European Americans couldn't care less about this, but whatever).

I believe the Golden State Warriors kind of did the same thing.
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Warriors is such a broad term.

If push came to shove I'd be willing to bet they would settle for that over Redskins.
Not according to Suzan Harjo. The American military are called soldiers. Warriors is specific to Indians according to her. The ones doing the fighting for Indians were called Warriors or Braves. If we are doing away with a name that some Indians say is derogatory to them to another name that Indians say is derogatory to them seems somewhat ridiculous to me. Im against changing the name, but if we do, we shouldnt go right back to what is considered derogatory by a handful of people.

Amanda Blackhorse has already said that if they can get Redskins to fall, they are going to try to get all of them changed. But they dont want to get people against them that support all the other names for now. They hate the Warriors being used as a name and flat out call it derogatory to them. If we are going to allow the Indians complaining to decide sports names, then we shouldnt allow any of these names to be used.

How 'Indian' mascots oppress - Issues- Native Circle

This site points out most of the names that is called Racist by the ones fighting against the names. If the ones calling Redskins racist also call Warriors racist (which they absolutely do), then its pointless to change to Warriors.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:19 PM   #4
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Not according to Suzan Harjo. The American military are called soldiers. Warriors is specific to Indians according to her. The ones doing the fighting for Indians were called Warriors or Braves. If we are doing away with a name that some Indians say is derogatory to them to another name that Indians say is derogatory to them seems somewhat ridiculous to me. Im against changing the name, but if we do, we shouldnt go right back to what is considered derogatory by a handful of people.

Amanda Blackhorse has already said that if they can get Redskins to fall, they are going to try to get all of them changed. But they dont want to get people against them that support all the other names for now. They hate the Warriors being used as a name and flat out call it derogatory to them. If we are going to allow the Indians complaining to decide sports names, then we shouldnt allow any of these names to be used.

How 'Indian' mascots oppress - Issues- Native Circle

This site points out most of the names that is called Racist by the ones fighting against the names. If the ones calling Redskins racist also call Warriors racist (which they absolutely do), then its pointless to change to Warriors.
Since we're talking military, what about Wounded Warriors?
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:57 PM   #5
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Not according to Suzan Harjo. The American military are called soldiers. Warriors is specific to Indians according to her. The ones doing the fighting for Indians were called Warriors or Braves. If we are doing away with a name that some Indians say is derogatory to them to another name that Indians say is derogatory to them seems somewhat ridiculous to me. Im against changing the name, but if we do, we shouldnt go right back to what is considered derogatory by a handful of people.

Amanda Blackhorse has already said that if they can get Redskins to fall, they are going to try to get all of them changed. But they dont want to get people against them that support all the other names for now. They hate the Warriors being used as a name and flat out call it derogatory to them. If we are going to allow the Indians complaining to decide sports names, then we shouldnt allow any of these names to be used.

How 'Indian' mascots oppress - Issues- Native Circle

This site points out most of the names that is called Racist by the ones fighting against the names. If the ones calling Redskins racist also call Warriors racist (which they absolutely do), then its pointless to change to Warriors.
Suzan Harjo appears to be a liar and historical revisionist.

Good reading here:
http://anthropology.si.edu/goddard/redskin.pdf

Good summary of the above here. I disagree with this author on the Redskin logo, but he agrees with Goddard about the name. Draw your own conclusions.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:20 PM   #6
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I've always thought the name Warriors was kind of cool (particularly with the Washington alliteration). I know Snyder bought the rights to the name to coincide with the possible expansion of an Arena team to the DC area (latest on that by the way: Proposed Arena Could Bring Football Team to D.C. Region « CBS DC) but the rights to the team and name did expire from what I understand and I'm not sure he renewed them (most likely he did though).

But anyhow, I think it would bother me if those who opposed the name because it depicts NAs as savages, or warriors, would be ok with the name Warriors. I mean how is one ok, and the other not? I asked Mike Wise this specific question when he suggested Warriors. He said as long as they're was no deragotoray logo. So I asked him if it's the Redskins name or logo that bothers him. He said both. But still I found it a bit odd for him to say Redskins bothers him because of what it depicts, but then suggests using one of those adjectives in description as one of the new names.
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I am so offended by people being offended and find it incredibly offensive that offense is being taken others. As offended as I am, it is not nearly as offensive as those who do not take offense at the offense at which others are offended. In fact, the entire debate is clearly far to offensive for anyone not to be offended and the mere fact that you are not offended should be cause for great offense in the media.

Now, if we could only get some of that great offense to take place on the field, I'd be much less offended.
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I am so offended by people being offended and find it incredibly offensive that offense is being taken others. As offended as I am, it is not nearly as offensive as those who do not take offense at the offense at which others are offended. In fact, the entire debate is clearly far to offensive for anyone not to be offended and the mere fact that you are not offended should be cause for great offense in the media.

Now, if we could only get some of that great offense to take place on the field, I'd be much less offended.
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Old 09-13-2013, 12:24 PM   #9
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^ LMAO Made my day
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I still say Washington Sillynannies.
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Now we're getting somewhere.

If we want the team name to represent D.C., how about the Washington Socialists.
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