Do You Unequivocally Believe RG3 Is Our Franchise QB?

[GTripp0012]

With the caveat that Griffin left some plays on the field -- None more painful than the painful fourth down conversion -- I thought Griffin was pretty good at Philly. I liked his decisiveness and quick decision making, and thought his knee looked really explosive for the first time since last season. The extra gear was there.

He showed an agressiveness and an ability to extend plays and give receivers a chance to make the plays to bring the Redskins back down 24 in the fourth quarter.

He's still a mechanical mess, but part of the problem is there is no sense of timing with him and his receivers, particularly once Hankerson and Reed were out. He double clutches a lot part because he's working with subpar teammates and part because he simply hasn't repped the passing plays enough to understand where the holes in the coverage will be.

Griffin has the skill necessary to create space to throw the ball, but the problem is that his internal clock is a bit fast at times (sometimes slow at others) and he is not always creating space to throw. Sometimes he is just speeding up his motion (try's to set his feet and throw at the same time) to get the ball out, and that's when he drops his elbow and the ball sails on him.

He's better from the muddied pocket than he was at this time last year, but the mechanical flaws he showed last season are still not fixed (which the coaches share blame for), and he's picked up a few bad habits (which is as much about the lacking talent around him as anything).

It may take multiple years to get Griffin to a point where he's not leaving plays on the field. I don't think he's close to resolving that. But as far as the big plays that powered last years offense returning...I think we're close to seeing that.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With the caveat that Griffin left some plays on the field -- None more painful than the painful fourth down conversion -- I thought Griffin was pretty good at Philly. I liked his decisiveness and quick decision making, and thought his knee looked really explosive for the first time since last season. The extra gear was there.

He showed an agressiveness and an ability to extend plays and give receivers a chance to make the plays to bring the Redskins back down 24 in the fourth quarter.

He's still a mechanical mess, but part of the problem is there is no sense of timing with him and his receivers, particularly once Hankerson and Reed were out. He double clutches a lot part because he's working with subpar teammates and part because he simply hasn't repped the passing plays enough to understand where the holes in the coverage will be.

Griffin has the skill necessary to create space to throw the ball, but the problem is that his internal clock is a bit fast at times (sometimes slow at others) and he is not always creating space to throw. Sometimes he is just speeding up his motion (try's to set his feet and throw at the same time) to get the ball out, and that's when he drops his elbow and the ball sails on him.

He's better from the muddied pocket than he was at this time last year, but the mechanical flaws he showed last season are still not fixed (which the coaches share blame for), and he's picked up a few bad habits (which is as much about the lacking talent around him as anything).

It may take multiple years to get Griffin to a point where he's not leaving plays on the field. I don't think he's close to resolving that. But as far as the big plays that powered last years offense returning...I think we're close to seeing that.

I disagree that he looked good, especially the first three quarters. However, I totally agree that his mechanics are a mess, and I attribute much of that to the terrible interior blocking by his O-line. Until that is improved, it will be difficult for Griffin to consistently make throws on rhythm with solid mechanics.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With the caveat that Griffin left some plays on the field -- None more painful than the painful fourth down conversion -- I thought Griffin was pretty good at Philly. I liked his decisiveness and quick decision making, and thought his knee looked really explosive for the first time since last season. The extra gear was there.

He showed an agressiveness and an ability to extend plays and give receivers a chance to make the plays to bring the Redskins back down 24 in the fourth quarter.

He's still a mechanical mess, but part of the problem is there is no sense of timing with him and his receivers, particularly once Hankerson and Reed were out. He double clutches a lot part because he's working with subpar teammates and part because he simply hasn't repped the passing plays enough to understand where the holes in the coverage will be.

Griffin has the skill necessary to create space to throw the ball, but the problem is that his internal clock is a bit fast at times (sometimes slow at others) and he is not always creating space to throw. Sometimes he is just speeding up his motion (try's to set his feet and throw at the same time) to get the ball out, and that's when he drops his elbow and the ball sails on him.

He's better from the muddied pocket than he was at this time last year, but the mechanical flaws he showed last season are still not fixed (which the coaches share blame for), and he's picked up a few bad habits (which is as much about the lacking talent around him as anything).

It may take multiple years to get Griffin to a point where he's not leaving plays on the field. I don't think he's close to resolving that. But as far as the big plays that powered last years offense returning...I think we're close to seeing that.

I would agree with most of this. I think your point of chemistry/timing with WR is evident, especially as the season has plodded along. Moss and Morgan are easy covers. Mechanics need work for sure. But my biggest gripe to be more specific than "just leaving plays on the field" is his vision of the field. Its still lacking.

[mitch e]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With the caveat that Griffin left some plays on the field -- None more painful than the painful fourth down conversion -- I thought Griffin was pretty good at Philly. I liked his decisiveness and quick decision making, and thought his knee looked really explosive for the first time since last season. The extra gear was there.

He showed an agressiveness and an ability to extend plays and give receivers a chance to make the plays to bring the Redskins back down 24 in the fourth quarter.

He's still a mechanical mess, but part of the problem is there is no sense of timing with him and his receivers, particularly once Hankerson and Reed were out. He double clutches a lot part because he's working with subpar teammates and part because he simply hasn't repped the passing plays enough to understand where the holes in the coverage will be.


Griffin has the skill necessary to create space to throw the ball, but the problem is that his internal clock is a bit fast at times (sometimes slow at others) and he is not always creating space to throw. Sometimes he is just speeding up his motion (try's to set his feet and throw at the same time) to get the ball out, and that's when he drops his elbow and the ball sails on him.

He's better from the muddied pocket than he was at this time last year, but the mechanical flaws he showed last season are still not fixed (which the coaches share blame for), and he's picked up a few bad habits (which is as much about the lacking talent around him as anything).

It may take multiple years to get Griffin to a point where he's not leaving plays on the field. I don't think he's close to resolving that. But as far as the big plays that powered last years offense returning...I think we're close to seeing that.

great insight HTTR!!

[Skins4L]

hell yes he is. period. if you were to ask me this in person id annihilate the topic of rg3 last season to this season.

[Skins4L]

RG is our guy. if theres any inhouse haters tough luck. Hes ELITE.. yea i said it. Give him a defense and oneeeee more weapon...

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

RG is our guy. if theres any inhouse haters tough luck. Hes ELITE.. yea i said it. Give him a defense and oneeeee more weapon...

Preach brother..............

[Sonny9TD]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

RG is our guy. if theres any inhouse haters tough luck. Hes ELITE.. yea i said it. Give him a defense and oneeeee more weapon...

Yea one more weapon and a defense will make RG3 spectacular. :say what:

I do believe he can play much better but the fault does not lie elsewhere. Step up and plant and throw before the break and we are almost there.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Skins4L

RG is our guy. if theres any inhouse haters tough luck. Hes ELITE.. yea i said it. Give him a defense and oneeeee more weapon...

Word to the mutherfuckin streets

[Hog1]

“You don’t say anything to the guys when it comes to that [leadership],” Griffin said. “The second you start changing and letting what outside people say affect what you do is the time that guys start to not believe in you. So you don’t do that. You go out to practice every day ready to work. Me and [Moss] talked. We’re on the same page and we just want to beat San Francisco. That’s all that matters to us right now.”

Love the kid....and yeah, he's the real deal

[Brody81]

The third year will tell the story. If he continues to struggle next year, we will have wasted 2 first round picks for a bust!! Knowing our luck, we are screwed!!


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[SolidSnake84]

I think it is sort of too early to call Griffin a bust....I think what we are seeing around the league is that QB's like RG3, Kaepernick, appear to be a one year wonder. Kaepernick is struggling this year. They all deserve to have another year..

But if RG3 gets worse next year - i wouldn't call him a bust. He could be just an average QB, that could do well if we build an entire team....

[mitch e]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think it is sort of too early to call Griffin a bust....I think what we are seeing around the league is that QB's like RG3, Kaepernick, appear to be a one year wonder. Kaepernick is struggling this year. They all deserve to have another year..

But if RG3 gets worse next year - i wouldn't call him a bust. He could be just an average QB, that could do well if we build an entire team....

If RG III had the same team that Kaepernick has I think we would be way out in front in our division. We shouldn't worry about his knee he will have PTSD before the season is over. HTTR

[MTK]

Too early to call the reigning rookie of the year a bust eh?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Too early to call the reigning rookie of the year a bust eh?

You must never actually read posts on this site. LOL