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[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

And just like years past Manning has a crazy overloaded offense where as Brady has people you'd probably never heard of before each year. I'm sorry, but almost any starting quality QB in the league could get plugged into that offense and put up 300+ yards a game without breaking a sweat.

Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?

He made it just as far in the playoffs as Peyton Manning did last year.

And Tebow went 7-4. Orton went 1-4.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?

Tebow didn't have Wes Welker a perennial pro bowler, a stud TE in J. Thomas, a finally healthy Moreno, and two wrs in D. Thomas and Decker going into their 3rd and 4th years where most WRs not named Megatron and Fitzgerald primarily hit their stride.

[redskins5044]

Brady has zero WR weapons...Welker was a big loss, Gronk being hurt and Hernandez locked up.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

Brady has zero WR weapons...Welker was a big loss, Gronk being hurt and Hernandez locked up.

The fact that NE made it as far as they did, shows how bad the AFC is, and how parody in the NFL, is a joke.

[skinsfaninok]

Brady haters will always say he's had help blah blah, fact is they showed the numbers the other day and it wasn't even close , manning has had way more help over the years. Both are great QBs it gets old hearing the same stuff about the 2.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by donofriose

The fact that NE made it as far as they did, shows how bad the AFC is, and how parody in the NFL, is a joke.

Exactly, no way this pats team should have won 12 games , who is their big name playmaker?? On either side of the ball... It shows how great BB and TB really are.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Exactly, no way this pats team should have won 12 games , who is their big name playmaker?? On either side of the ball... It shows how great BB and TB really are.

Are you kidding me?

They were 7th in total offense. They were 9th in rushing yards. They were 10th in passing. (total NFL rankings)


So Tom has no weapons, yet they manage to put up that type of yardage and scoring. Tom has weapons. Because YOU have never heard of them or because they aren't Dez, CJ, or AJ Green means they have no play makers. Apparently you haven't seen jack shit from Edleman, nor have you seen their running game. Sure, those first few games were brutal for Brady and company, but they took off once they got their rhythm. Stop this non-sense that Brady has no weapons.

Also, if Brady has no weapons, and Bill Bellichick is picking the players. What exactly does that say about BB?

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

And just like years past Manning has a crazy overloaded offense where as Brady has people you'd probably never heard of before each year. I'm sorry, but almost any starting quality QB in the league could get plugged into that offense and put up 300+ yards a game without breaking a sweat.

Some people just are haters man , u just have to understand that. NC is cool but he's a well known Brady hater lol , tom could win 5 rings and he'd say it was the D that won for him

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Some people just are haters man , u just have to understand that. NC is cool but he's a well known Brady hater lol , tom could win 5 rings and he'd say it was the D that won for him

D didn't win it for him but D was a big reason he has three.

To be a dynasty you need a great defense, great offense and a great set of special teams. That is why they become dynasties.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by donofriose

D didn't win it for him but D was a big reason he has three.

To be a dynasty you need a great defense, great offense and a great set of special teams. That is why they become dynasties.

Exactly

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Which is why Tebow had a 8-8 record with them?

To be fair Tim did win a playoff game with Denver, that team is stacked on offense

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

To be fair Tim did win a playoff game with Denver, that team is stacked on offense

He won that game with 3 completed passes. Three!!!

COME ON MAN.

[mooby]

Brady v. Manning is overhyped. Neither would be anything if they didn't have 10 other guys on offense helping them out, as well as an entire defense supporting their leads and special teams helping them out. That's why they always give credit to their supporting cast, because they know they are the voice of an entire team. I think both are amongst the all-time greats at qb, but I don't care to rank which is better than the other. Both of them have put up amazing numbers with and without great supporting casts, although Brady has more seasons with the latter.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by mooby

Brady v. Manning is overhyped. Neither would be anything if they didn't have 10 other guys on offense helping them out, as well as an entire defense supporting their leads and special teams helping them out. That's why they always give credit to their supporting cast, because they know they are the voice of an entire team. I think both are amongst the all-time greats at qb, but I don't care to rank which is better than the other. Both of them have put up amazing numbers with and without great supporting casts, although Brady has more seasons with the latter.

Exactly true. Without Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne do we view Manning the same? Most likely not.

Without a great defense do we view Brady the same? Most likely not.

Its a joke that people think one is better than the other when football is such a team game.