Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-04-2014, 08:27 PM

Or instead of looking at the last 8 games as a contract push, look at the first 8 as reacclimating himself to the game he was away from for a year.

Don't try to compare the redskins 2012 record to 2013 and put that on Orakpo as the reason we won 10 or lost 13. It doesn't make any sense. There are way to many factors that have nothing to do with Rak. I would argue if he was healthy all of 2012 we would have won a couple more games.

The guys back.

MTK · 03-04-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Or instead of looking at the last 8 games as a contract push, look at the first 8 as reacclimating himself to the game he was away from for a year.

Don't try to compare the redskins 2012 record to 2013 and put that on Orakpo as the reason we won 10 or lost 13. It doesn't make any sense. There are way to many factors that have nothing to do with Rak. I would argue if he was healthy all of 2012 we would have won a couple more games.

The guys back.

Definitely agree.

He's always played with a high motor, I don't buy the "he was just playing hard for a contract" BS.

NC_Skins · 03-04-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Or instead of looking at the last 8 games as a contract push, look at the first 8 as reacclimating himself to the game he was away from for a year.

The problem with this is that those sacks in the back half of the season came at the expense of backup tackles.

I for one am happy he'll be around one more year, but I hope they don't overpay him on a long term deal. I like a few other think that we should have probably let him explore free agency. I'm all for keeping our home grown talent......if the pay is accordingly. If not, I would do like the Patriots, Steelers do and let them walk. Smart organizations pay their elite talent and let the others walk instead of overpaying.

donofriose · 03-04-2014, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The problem with this is that those sacks in the back half of the season came at the expense of backup tackles.

I for one am happy he'll be around one more year, but I hope they don't overpay him on a long term deal. I like a few other think that we should have probably let him explore free agency. I'm all for keeping our home grown talent......if the pay is accordingly. If not, I would do like the Patriots, Steelers do and let them walk. Smart organizations pay their elite talent and let the others walk instead of overpaying.

I think smart organizations actually find elite talent... which is something Washington has failed at.

NC_Skins · 03-04-2014, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by donofriose

I think smart organizations actually find elite talent... which is something Washington has failed at.

No argument there.....lol

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-05-2014, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

The problem with this is that those sacks in the back half of the season came at the expense of backup tackles.

I for one am happy he'll be around one more year, but I hope they don't overpay him on a long term deal. I like a few other think that we should have probably let him explore free agency. I'm all for keeping our home grown talent......if the pay is accordingly. If not, I would do like the Patriots, Steelers do and let them walk. Smart organizations pay their elite talent and let the others walk instead of overpaying.

I agree about his long term contract. The point of my post is there are a bunch of reasons for the way a player plays.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-04-2014, 09:18 PM

How could you honestly? The guy plays a pretty consistent game. He has improved each year. And I totally agree that he always plays with a high motor.

punch it in · 03-04-2014, 09:28 PM

Rak just needs help as does Kerrigan. We got absolutely zero push from the middle of our d-line last year. We need to beef that shit up. I hope we do. However we have to improve our secondary as well as our o-line. If there was ever a time in which we had to hit in the draft, and free agency on almost every move this is it. I have become completely dis-interested in going after any of the skill positions on offense for now. The number one problem on offense is keeping Griff healthy. Not finding more targets for him. Reed, Garcon, and Almo are weaponry enough if we can sure up the D and the oline. Sorry somehow this rant got away from Rak, but suring up the middle and the secondary will go a long way twards him having a monster year.

Gmanc711 · 03-04-2014, 09:38 PM

I have no problem with this move, and am certainly in favor of it. I'm no "cap gu-ru"; but we're still twenty million under the cap AFTER franchising Orkapo. I think thats still plenty of money for next year; and I'm not sure of any big time free agents, outside of maybe Byrd that we would be targeting.

I still hope we lock up Orkapo long term, but since this is a one year thing at this point, we don't have to worry about his contract for now taking up the money it will cost to resign Trent, Rg3, Morris in the next year or two. Specifically Trent.

That Guy · 03-04-2014, 09:49 PM

the biggest names that could help would be byrd or mack at 10mill/year each (or around there). and talib (which might be a bit more)

there are cheaper safeties (at least 3 others) that'd give us most of what byrd would at a much cheaper contract. and there's really no one at mlb (D'Q, and he's an upgrade, but not amazing). we can get a 2nd tier WR like britt and be fine, since they'll be replacing morgan, who wasn't setting the world on fire.

best bet at #34 right now would be OG or MLB i'd gather, though you really just have to wait and see how that pans out and not handcuff yourself to one guy or one position.

REDSKINS4ever · 03-05-2014, 11:42 PM

Glad we were able to franchise tag Orakpo......hopefully they'll get a deal done for the long term.....

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 03-08-2014, 05:09 PM

Here's what former Indianapolis GM, Bill Polian, had to say when ranking Orakpo outside the top 10 available FA's:

"Orakpo has excellent size with good first-step quickness and good rush instincts. He is a power rusher more than a speed rusher. He is decent at the point of attack. All in all, a solid starting 3-4 OLB."

Pretty much sums it up for me. You decide how important it is to keep him and what contract he's worth. I for one feel like he's gonna get way more than he should, but that's the beauty of FA deals for these guys in general, which is why drafting is so important.

Polian grades Redskins free agents - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

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03-04-2014, 08:27 PM	#1
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo Or instead of looking at the last 8 games as a contract push, look at the first 8 as reacclimating himself to the game he was away from for a year. Don't try to compare the redskins 2012 record to 2013 and put that on Orakpo as the reason we won 10 or lost 13. It doesn't make any sense. There are way to many factors that have nothing to do with Rak. I would argue if he was healthy all of 2012 we would have won a couple more games. The guys back. __________________ Just win. Last edited by artmonkforhallofamein07; 03-04-2014 at 09:04 PM.

03-04-2014, 09:18 PM	#7
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo How could you honestly? The guy plays a pretty consistent game. He has improved each year. And I totally agree that he always plays with a high motor. __________________ Just win.

03-04-2014, 09:38 PM	#9
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	Re: Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo I have no problem with this move, and am certainly in favor of it. I'm no "cap gu-ru"; but we're still twenty million under the cap AFTER franchising Orkapo. I think thats still plenty of money for next year; and I'm not sure of any big time free agents, outside of maybe Byrd that we would be targeting. I still hope we lock up Orkapo long term, but since this is a one year thing at this point, we don't have to worry about his contract for now taking up the money it will cost to resign Trent, Rg3, Morris in the next year or two. Specifically Trent. __________________ #21

03-04-2014, 09:49 PM	#10
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo the biggest names that could help would be byrd or mack at 10mill/year each (or around there). and talib (which might be a bit more) there are cheaper safeties (at least 3 others) that'd give us most of what byrd would at a much cheaper contract. and there's really no one at mlb (D'Q, and he's an upgrade, but not amazing). we can get a 2nd tier WR like britt and be fine, since they'll be replacing morgan, who wasn't setting the world on fire. best bet at #34 right now would be OG or MLB i'd gather, though you really just have to wait and see how that pans out and not handcuff yourself to one guy or one position.

03-04-2014, 09:28 PM	#8
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 54 Posts: 24,393	Rak just needs help as does Kerrigan. We got absolutely zero push from the middle of our d-line last year. We need to beef that shit up. I hope we do. However we have to improve our secondary as well as our o-line. If there was ever a time in which we had to hit in the draft, and free agency on almost every move this is it. I have become completely dis-interested in going after any of the skill positions on offense for now. The number one problem on offense is keeping Griff healthy. Not finding more targets for him. Reed, Garcon, and Almo are weaponry enough if we can sure up the D and the oline. Sorry somehow this rant got away from Rak, but suring up the middle and the secondary will go a long way twards him having a monster year.

03-05-2014, 11:42 PM	#11
REDSKINS4ever Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 4,117	Re: Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo Glad we were able to franchise tag Orakpo......hopefully they'll get a deal done for the long term..... __________________ *Touchdown Washington Redskins!!!*

03-08-2014, 05:09 PM	#12
TenandSix:Unacceptable Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 331	Re: Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo Here's what former Indianapolis GM, Bill Polian, had to say when ranking Orakpo outside the top 10 available FA's: "Orakpo has excellent size with good first-step quickness and good rush instincts. He is a power rusher more than a speed rusher. He is decent at the point of attack. All in all, a solid starting 3-4 OLB." Pretty much sums it up for me. You decide how important it is to keep him and what contract he's worth. I for one feel like he's gonna get way more than he should, but that's the beauty of FA deals for these guys in general, which is why drafting is so important. Polian grades Redskins free agents - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN

Redskins place franchise tag on Orakpo

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