Ravens v. Redskins Gameday Thread

[mredskins]

So was he suspend for the Pierce hit or the Smith hit?

[tshile]

Originally Posted by mredskins

So was he suspend for the Pierce hit or the Smith hit?

he was suspended for 2 games last year, i forget the specific hits they were for, he appealed and got it down to 1 game.

unless he can make a really good case that these hits were not the result of him doing something wrong (I think any time you duck your head and blindly go into a tackle you lose that argument, but just my opinion) he's going to get the full 2 games time.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by tshile

he was suspended for 2 games last year, i forget the specific hits they were for, he appealed and got it down to 1 game.

unless he can make a really good case that these hits were not the result of him doing something wrong (I think any time you duck your head and blindly go into a tackle you lose that argument, but just my opinion) he's going to get the full 2 games time.

Thank you for totally not answering the question.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Thank you for totally not answering the question.

you're welcome

[over the mountain]

smith hit. pierce was an established ball carrier and BM head was up, not lowered.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

smith hit. pierce was an established ball carrier and BM head was up, not lowered.

Thank you for totally answering the question.

[MTK]

You put your shoulder down and the head follows. I don't know what these guys are supposed to do sometimes.

We're probably moving toward not being able to touch a WR until they complete the catch.

[tshile]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

You put your shoulder down and the head follows. I don't know what these guys are supposed to do sometimes.

We're probably moving toward not being able to touch a WR until they complete the catch.

you're supposed to see what you hit.
you're supposed to go for the waist area.

this is among the first things they teach you when you start playing at a young age. it's something they teach you as you continue to go through sports.

it changes when you start trying to get scholarships and when you start trying to get drafted, and you make a conscious decision to go for big hits in an effort to be noticed. after years of playing that way it becomes hard to undo it.

that doesn't make it anyone else's fault. everyone else in the league is figuring it out. it's our one guy that can't seem to get his shit together.

you never saw fletcher tackle that way.

[over the mountain]

cooley did a really good tape breakdown of RG3 yesterday of the ravens game.
i love listening to cooley bc he gives you really good in-depth breakdowns.

he sd the offense was very very vanilla. we didnt call any short quick passes on purpose and he expects a lot of that once the regular season starts.

rg3 needs to trust his pre snap reads (where the safeties are dictates whether he reads the right or left side of the field)

he needs to trust his receivers will win the battle for the ball. he needs to get the ball out quicker and on-time. he cannot wait until he sees his receiver win the battle/become open.

he sd he didnt see rg3 throw into tight spaces = lack of confidence

he sd he knows rg3 can do this, he did it in 2012 albeit when his 1st read was wide open but that gave rg3 confidence to also try and fit tight throws etc.

he sd in games when rg3 would hit a pass play early he would come into the huddle super confident and had the look that he was unstoppable. he expects gruden to dial up short pass plays to get rg3 going early.

specific plays

1. the early pass play to d jax that was intercepted (a flag on D negated it). he sd rg3 read it right and threw it on time (before d jax broke) but d jax misread the play and took his route to far and into coverage causing the pick.

2. on a 5 yard hitch route he sd rg3 waited until his guy was done the route and standing open before he threw the ball. rg3 should have trusted the pre snap read and should have trusted his receiver would be in the spot he was supposed to be. especially considering it was a simple 5 yard hitch.


cousins - he sd cousins play call did include short pass plays. cousins is real good going from read 1 to 2, real good keeping his eyes down the middle of the field even though he knows he is going to the left or right.

[over the mountain]

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/BC0...yxk4NDirLBEBew

another clearer angle of the BM hit on torrey

[JoeRedskin]

As he approaches, he ducks his head and slightly changes his angle. Had he not done both, he would have hit Smith dead on helmet to helmet.

EDIT: Given the angle of approach, it seems pretty clear to me he is trying to get his shoulder in first.

Again, I think another player gets a pass but BM does not.

[punch it in]

Certainly looks guilty there. Lol
Edit: like JR said he obviously changes his angle. Tough to tell whether he thought he would avoid the helmet by doing so. Too bang bang in real time.