LaVar not happy

5RINGS · 09-22-2005, 05:43 PM

Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.

illdefined · 09-22-2005, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.

well he did get career high sacks that year.

if not, let's see the 3-4. we have a backup tackle in there now, and our front four isn't bringing it without help anyway.

5RINGS · 09-22-2005, 06:04 PM

Your Defence is avg 10pt a game. That's pretty good. Why switch schemes now?

That Guy · 09-23-2005, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 5RINGS

Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.

under marvin lewis he had 10 sacks playing DE only on 3rd downs, so i don't think it'd be a problem, and he's already agreed that he's willing to do it.

or best DE last year got like 4 sacks playing everydown.

Kevikazi · 09-22-2005, 05:41 PM

"LaVar needs more work [in practice]," Lindsey said. "On top of that, he has to feel confident that his knee is OK and that he understands what the [defensive] system asks him to do and then can go out and do that to the best of his ability, and we have to feel the same way about him."

The impression I'm getting from Lindsey's quote:

1) LaVar is still free-lancing and not doing what Gregg Williams is asking him to do.

2) LaVar doesn't fully understand Gregg Williams' scheme.

If that's the case, they are doing the right thing by not starting him IMO.

illdefined · 09-22-2005, 06:15 PM

shutouts!

(and frankly, maybe some defensive points..)

giacomo2 · 09-24-2005, 07:32 PM

Like i said before....maybe lavar should of learned Williams system, rather than take those people to wal-mart. but then again, this might be a good thing for lavar....if he keeps acting like a little bitch, he can use his degree from the state penn, i mean penn state, and maybe one day i'll hear over the intercom....LAVAR, CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE. But i really think the reason is more than the knee,Williams is a great coach, and i think he wants his players to be in the right position all the time and lavar does his own thing, which hurts our scheme. I use to be a big fan of lavars, until he tried to screw the team out of money, then i saw what a selfish dick he really is. I use to wear Lavars shirt every sunday with pride, sadly now, he's old news(and a bitch) i might add, now i wear taylors #21 jersey, now he's a stud who gives his all.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 09-26-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by giacomo2

Like i said before....maybe lavar should of learned Williams system, rather than take those people to wal-mart. but then again, this might be a good thing for lavar....if he keeps acting like a little bitch, he can use his degree from the state penn, i mean penn state, and maybe one day i'll hear over the intercom....LAVAR, CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE. But i really think the reason is more than the knee,Williams is a great coach, and i think he wants his players to be in the right position all the time and lavar does his own thing, which hurts our scheme. I use to be a big fan of lavars, until he tried to screw the team out of money, then i saw what a selfish dick he really is. I use to wear Lavars shirt every sunday with pride, sadly now, he's old news(and a bitch) i might add, now i wear taylors #21 jersey, now he's a stud who gives his all.

There is so much wrong with this entire post that I hardly know where to start.

First of all, you're no longer a fan of a guy who takes hurricane victims to walmart to buy them necessities with his own money, out of the goodness of his heart......because you believe a guy like Sean Taylor is more worthy of your praise.......a guy who doesn't bother returning his coaches' calls all offseason because he's too busy getting involved in gun-play that could keep him away from our team for 3 years while he's sitting in prison??? That fact alone should probably have been enough for me to just ignore this post.

But then there's what appears to be a slight at Penn State as well......and everyone here knows I'm not keeping my mouth shut about that. If you are insinuating that somehow a Penn State degree is likely to lead to a career at Walmart, then please, I beg you, send me a private message with where you graduated college and let's see whose degree has gotten them farther.

And that "selfish dick" (kinda seems contradictory to the whole Walmart comment there, doesn't it? After all, what has your idol Sean Taylor done for anyone else other than himself?) dropped the arbitration with the skins so that they could work out a settlement. Seems to me his complaint must have had some merit, or else why would the Skins be willing to pay anything at all to him?

And I know you're an expert and all, but how have you determined in the handfull of games that Lavar has played under Williams's system that Lavar has not bought into the system and refuses to do anything other than his own thing? Where's the evidence of that?

illdefined · 09-26-2005, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by giacomo2

Like i said before....maybe lavar should of learned Williams system, rather than take those people to wal-mart. but then again, this might be a good thing for lavar....if he keeps acting like a little bitch, he can use his degree from the state penn, i mean penn state, and maybe one day i'll hear over the intercom....LAVAR, CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE. But i really think the reason is more than the knee,Williams is a great coach, and i think he wants his players to be in the right position all the time and lavar does his own thing, which hurts our scheme. I use to be a big fan of lavars, until he tried to screw the team out of money, then i saw what a selfish dick he really is. I use to wear Lavars shirt every sunday with pride, sadly now, he's old news(and a bitch) i might add, now i wear taylors #21 jersey, now he's a stud who gives his all.

:vomit-smi

MTK · 09-22-2005, 11:33 PM

Can't we just give the man a chance to work his way back?

Seriously, we had about 5 or 6 'Where's LaVar' threads going earlier this week.

A little patience goes a long way.

dblanch66 · 09-22-2005, 11:43 PM

This won't be a popular opinion, but...
I really think trading him in the offseason for draft picks and cap room is a good idea. I don't know what the "dead money" situation would be but if it gives us cap relief and can generate a #1 and #2 or 3 draft pick, I'd pull the trigger.

Dirtbag · 09-23-2005, 02:05 AM

I like Lavar's physical skills as much as any Redskins fan, but he's not smart enough to excel in Gregg Williams' systems. He consistently makes mental errors, and I think that's why the coaches are reluctant to work him back into the mix. Besides, our D has been incredible without him.

Luxorreb · 09-23-2005, 05:46 AM

Lavar will be back.
Noone should worry. He's coming off an injury that kept him out almost all of last season. The Redskins are winning without him right now so it's not that big of a deal. Arrington will be back in full swing by midseason and hopefully be healthy to take us into the playoffs. Yeah its the first post I've mentioned playoffs as a reality, but Arrington will be a big assett to this team this year! And you'll see it soon. Noone really knows if he's over having swelling in his knee. Why play him full tilt if he wasn't 100% in wk2 and we have a wk3 bye? You'll see more of him in the coming weeks. And I still believe he's got plenty in the tank. He wants to win and he wants to win as a Redskin. Good combo. Don't fret and please don't continue to freak out. Gibbs' and Tyer and the organization have been to the rodeo before.

SkinsRock · 09-23-2005, 02:03 PM

As much as I love LaVar and want to see him playing more, I am a Redskins fan first, and with our D allowing only 10pts. per game, plus being 2-0, I say work him in slowly. There is no rush. If he has such a problem with that, shut up and work harder to show the coaches you are ready.
That being said, I agree that the article kind of strings a lot of negative quotes together and leaves out more positive ones like how he just wants to win and was thrilled with the win in Dallas, even though he wished he could have been more of a part of it.

redsk1 · 09-23-2005, 03:01 PM

A couple points to make:

The first skins defensive play this past monday night, Lavar was in there and came from accross the field to make the tackle on J. Jones for a gain of 3-4 yds. Great play. Check the tape, i'm 99% sure. Big time, play. I didn't even see him the rest of the game.

As for the injury, this is the NFL. He should get more than a couple plays a game, even if he's hurt.

As for his attitude, its obvious anyone who plays in the nfl should want to play and be upset if he's not. This guy has played hurt for us many, many times and probably not gotten the respect for it. He probably is a little sensative sometimes but this guy has a ton of heart and is a true redskin.

And...he probably should be explained how they want to "easy him in" or if they are just not going to play him b/c they feel he freelances too much. He is one of the most tenured skins on the team.

09-22-2005, 06:04 PM	#3
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: LaVar not happy Your Defence is avg 10pt a game. That's pretty good. Why switch schemes now?

09-22-2005, 05:41 PM	#5
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 56 Posts: 187	Re: LaVar not happy "LaVar needs more work [in practice]," Lindsey said. "On top of that, he has to feel confident that his knee is OK and that he understands what the [defensive] system asks him to do and then can go out and do that to the best of his ability, and we have to feel the same way about him." The impression I'm getting from Lindsey's quote: 1) LaVar is still free-lancing and not doing what Gregg Williams is asking him to do. 2) LaVar doesn't fully understand Gregg Williams' scheme. If that's the case, they are doing the right thing by not starting him IMO.

09-22-2005, 06:15 PM	#6
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 50 Posts: 2,631	Re: LaVar not happy shutouts! (and frankly, maybe some defensive points..) __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

09-24-2005, 07:32 PM	#7
giacomo2 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 61	Re: LaVar not happy Like i said before....maybe lavar should of learned Williams system, rather than take those people to wal-mart. but then again, this might be a good thing for lavar....if he keeps acting like a little bitch, he can use his degree from the state penn, i mean penn state, and maybe one day i'll hear over the intercom....LAVAR, CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE. But i really think the reason is more than the knee,Williams is a great coach, and i think he wants his players to be in the right position all the time and lavar does his own thing, which hurts our scheme. I use to be a big fan of lavars, until he tried to screw the team out of money, then i saw what a selfish dick he really is. I use to wear Lavars shirt every sunday with pride, sadly now, he's old news(and a bitch) i might add, now i wear taylors #21 jersey, now he's a stud who gives his all.

09-22-2005, 11:33 PM	#10
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: LaVar not happy Can't we just give the man a chance to work his way back? Seriously, we had about 5 or 6 'Where's LaVar' threads going earlier this week. A little patience goes a long way. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-22-2005, 05:43 PM	#1
5RINGS Closet Redskins Fan Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 495	Re: LaVar not happy Arrington as a down lineman is problematic. The difference between a two point stance and a three point stance is pretty significant for a player who has 6 yr in the league and add in his time at Penn State and you have a player who wants to stay in his comfort zone. Even if he agreed to try and switch it would be difficult.

09-22-2005, 11:43 PM	#11
dblanch66 The Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 60 Posts: 1,176	Re: LaVar not happy This won't be a popular opinion, but... I really think trading him in the offseason for draft picks and cap room is a good idea. I don't know what the "dead money" situation would be but if it gives us cap relief and can generate a #1 and #2 or 3 draft pick, I'd pull the trigger.

09-23-2005, 02:05 AM	#12
Dirtbag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 142	Re: LaVar not happy I like Lavar's physical skills as much as any Redskins fan, but he's not smart enough to excel in Gregg Williams' systems. He consistently makes mental errors, and I think that's why the coaches are reluctant to work him back into the mix. Besides, our D has been incredible without him.

09-23-2005, 05:46 AM	#13
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 54 Posts: 1,630	Re: LaVar not happy Lavar will be back. Noone should worry. He's coming off an injury that kept him out almost all of last season. The Redskins are winning without him right now so it's not that big of a deal. Arrington will be back in full swing by midseason and hopefully be healthy to take us into the playoffs. Yeah its the first post I've mentioned playoffs as a reality, but Arrington will be a big assett to this team this year! And you'll see it soon. Noone really knows if he's over having swelling in his knee. Why play him full tilt if he wasn't 100% in wk2 and we have a wk3 bye? You'll see more of him in the coming weeks. And I still believe he's got plenty in the tank. He wants to win and he wants to win as a Redskin. Good combo. Don't fret and please don't continue to freak out. Gibbs' and Tyer and the organization have been to the rodeo before. __________________ ^21^

09-23-2005, 02:03 PM	#14
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 56 Posts: 907	Re: LaVar not happy As much as I love LaVar and want to see him playing more, I am a Redskins fan first, and with our D allowing only 10pts. per game, plus being 2-0, I say work him in slowly. There is no rush. If he has such a problem with that, shut up and work harder to show the coaches you are ready. That being said, I agree that the article kind of strings a lot of negative quotes together and leaves out more positive ones like how he just wants to win and was thrilled with the win in Dallas, even though he wished he could have been more of a part of it.

09-23-2005, 03:01 PM	#15
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: LaVar not happy A couple points to make: The first skins defensive play this past monday night, Lavar was in there and came from accross the field to make the tackle on J. Jones for a gain of 3-4 yds. Great play. Check the tape, i'm 99% sure. Big time, play. I didn't even see him the rest of the game. As for the injury, this is the NFL. He should get more than a couple plays a game, even if he's hurt. As for his attitude, its obvious anyone who plays in the nfl should want to play and be upset if he's not. This guy has played hurt for us many, many times and probably not gotten the respect for it. He probably is a little sensative sometimes but this guy has a ton of heart and is a true redskin. And...he probably should be explained how they want to "easy him in" or if they are just not going to play him b/c they feel he freelances too much. He is one of the most tenured skins on the team.

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