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Old 12-01-2014, 10:39 AM   #1
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Re: Blown Coverages - Who do we blame?!

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for blown coverage i blame, in equal parts:



1. haslett

2. allen (for not adding a FS and thinking adding porter for 4.5 mil was a solution)

3. our secondary players not named breeland or merriweather





our secondary and RT were huge holes going into the offseason.



our secondary and RT were huge holes coming out of the offseason.



our secondary and RT are huge holes going into the next offseason.



so of course we will add more pass rushers to solve the 2 holes.

This is all so completely on point.


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Old 12-01-2014, 10:43 AM   #2
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I know the defense sucks and they're banged up, but I think having a terrible offense doesn't help a struggling/banged up defense. I mean the offense was only able to put up three points off three turnovers. We gotta be near the bottom in terms of points off turnover, I know we're already at the bottom in 3rd down conversions.

No matter what we'll do to the defense, it's not going to matter if we don't have an offense that can sustain drives and score points off turnovers.
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Re: Blown Coverages - Who do we blame?!

Per Tandler on who's to blame for blown coverages:

"You can’t fire all of the players so soon after the season ends on December 28 the organization will take a look at making coaching staff changes. Gruden just completed the first year of full guaranteed five-year contract so he is safe.

The same can’t be said of defensive coordinator Jim Haslett and secondary coach Raheem Morris. Many were surprised when they were retained last January after Mike Shanahan was fired. One or both of them might not be so fortunate this time around."
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:13 PM   #4
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Re: Blown Coverages - Who do we blame?!

Against San Fran, the depleted secondary did well. Against Indy, the depleted secondary looked awful. Raheem deserves both praise and blame for this.

The defense has not looked the same since DHall went down. It has not had the same tenacity and energy. DHall is the team's 2014 MVP, as his absence shows.
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Re: Blown Coverages - Who do we blame?!

What you're seeing out there is confusion. And that is depressing. I'm really not sure how good or bad our CBs are--they just seem to be covering the wrong guys. So a new coach/scheme may do well with the young CBs. Obviously, we need help at safety.
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Giving up all those picks for a major fail in RGIII is why we dont have a secondary..think about it that is 3 number one DB's …but most DB's don't sell a lot of jerseys...
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Giving up all those picks for a major fail in RGIII is why we dont have a secondary..think about it that is 3 number one DB's …but most DB's don't sell a lot of jerseys...
Heard on the Sports Fix on 980 today Chris Russel say we spent the smallest percentage of salary cap on secondary in the league.

I heard this in passing and not 100% sure I heard it correctly. Also, not sure how it is calculated. (with or without injuries)

Please correct me if this isn't accurate.
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Heard on the Sports Fix on 980 today Chris Russel say we spent the smallest percentage of salary cap on secondary in the league.

I heard this in passing and not 100% sure I heard it correctly. Also, not sure how it is calculated. (with or without injuries)

Please correct me if this isn't accurate.
Heard that to. I imagine our FO is rethinking the.............wisdom of that decision
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Heard that to. I imagine our FO is rethinking the.............wisdom of that decision
How much are you willing to bet?
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Heard on the Sports Fix on 980 today Chris Russel say we spent the smallest percentage of salary cap on secondary in the league.

I heard this in passing and not 100% sure I heard it correctly. Also, not sure how it is calculated. (with or without injuries)

Please correct me if this isn't accurate.
That bothers me much less than the inability to develop Rambo, Crawford, Thomas, Minnifield (and maybe even Amerson), or the inability to identify the lack of talent/potential in those guys.
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That bothers me much less than the inability to develop Rambo, Crawford, Thomas, Minnifield (and maybe even Amerson), or the inability to identify the lack of talent/potential in those guys.
In fairness, Crawford, Thomas and Minnifield all had their development stunted by injury. based solely on talent, both Thomas and Minnifield were considered high-mid rounder’s going into the draft. Rambo was always going to be a boom or bust prospect though. Same as Amerson, who sadly now seems to be regressing at an alarming rate. With that said however, you’re prob right that once again the inability to either evaluate or develop talent is all too apparent.

Is it also worth questioning at this stage then the pressure up top, or lack of? I know it doesn’t account for receivers being left wide open, but I’m genuinely eager to find out (due to rarely getting seeing games) where we are right now going forward, and if investing the necessary resources to the defensive front is even more of a priority than the secondary?
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Hopefully, our........next Defensive staff will recognize these inadequacies and act accordingly.
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Re: Blown Coverages - Who do we blame?!

Is it the players?

Ryan Clark:
"You’re not supposed to be able to sleep on Sunday nights when it goes like this – I don’t,” he said. “But until everybody feels that way, until that’s the way we approach work, we approach everything, it’s gonna keep happening. And then if it continues to happen, it’ll be a new group of guys in here next year from top down.”

Shawn Springs:
“And then Fleener outruns Amerson to the endzone. I mean, I’m just like, that’s effort. That’s not coaching, that has nothing to do with Raheem Morris, that has nothing to do with [Jim] Haslett’s play calls. If you can’t run down the tight end, please do not play in the NFL if you’re a cornerback.
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Is it the players?



Ryan Clark:

"You’re not supposed to be able to sleep on Sunday nights when it goes like this – I don’t,” he said. “But until everybody feels that way, until that’s the way we approach work, we approach everything, it’s gonna keep happening. And then if it continues to happen, it’ll be a new group of guys in here next year from top down.”



Shawn Springs:

“And then Fleener outruns Amerson to the endzone. I mean, I’m just like, that’s effort. That’s not coaching, that has nothing to do with Raheem Morris, that has nothing to do with [Jim] Haslett’s play calls. If you can’t run down the tight end, please do not play in the NFL if you’re a cornerback.

Its effort sure, but both those coaches still suck.


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What happened to the Amerson of last year?

Amerson can't even show up to team meetings on time then gets outrun by a 6'6 250lb mountain.

I haven't even heard his name called all year. Has he been playing?
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