RG3 and Gruden?

Schneed10 · 12-09-2014, 02:10 PM

In fact, I think a strong leader would call both Gruden and Griffin into his office and put the cards on the table. Say listen Jay I'm into you for $20M so you're my coach. And Robert I still believe that you can become the QB we thought, and I don't want to give up on the massive investment we have in you.

But Jay, your success as a head coach in this league depends on whether you can get performance from Robert and the rest of the team. Robert, your ability to secure a second contract in this league depends on your ability to take coaching and improve, because you've been terrible.

Your wagons are hitched together. And my wagon is hitched to both of yours. Now go back to the sandbox and learn how to get along, get this thing turned in the right direction, or you'll both be moving on from these contracts. If you want other teams to look at you as worthy of a future big contract, you'll need to do this together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.

calia · 12-09-2014, 02:12 PM

Entirely as an aside (let's face it, there's nothing uplifting about our team) -- I like these: Navy Football Team to Wear Custom Uniforms for Army Match-up « CBS DC

irish · 12-09-2014, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

Entirely as an aside (let's face it, there's nothing uplifting about our team) -- I like these: Navy Football Team to Wear Custom Uniforms for Army Match-up « CBS DC

Its interesting but they dont really look like Navy.

skinsguy · 12-09-2014, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

In fact, I think a strong leader would call both Gruden and Griffin into his office and put the cards on the table. Say listen Jay I'm into you for $20M so you're my coach. And Robert I still believe that you can become the QB we thought, and I don't want to give up on the massive investment we have in you.

But Jay, your success as a head coach in this league depends on whether you can get performance from Robert and the rest of the team. Robert, your ability to secure a second contract in this league depends on your ability to take coaching and improve, because you've been terrible.

Your wagons are hitched together. And my wagon is hitched to both of yours. Now go back to the sandbox and learn how to get along, get this thing turned in the right direction, or you'll both be moving on from these contracts. If you want other teams to look at you as worthy of a future big contract, you'll need to do this together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.

I would love for this to happen! But in the world of guaranteed contracts, Gruden could easily say, "It's my way. Don't like it, fire me so I can collect!" I don't suppose there is a clause in Gruden's contract that says if the 'skins have the same record as the previous year, the contract is null and void? I seriously think the front office brass needs to seriously consider that as an opt out option in future contracts!

over the mountain · 12-09-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Your wagons are hitched together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.

sucks for Jay that his wagon is hitched to a QB he didnt hand pick.

Ruhskins · 12-09-2014, 02:35 PM

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sucks for Jay that his wagon is hitched to a QB he didnt hand pick.

Then he shouldn't have taken the job.

irish · 12-09-2014, 03:14 PM

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Then he shouldn't have taken the job.

Would you have turned down the sweet contract he was given? I doubt it.

VTSkins1961 · 12-09-2014, 04:00 PM

could be a breach of contract depending on how it was written

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

sucks for Jay that his wagon is hitched to a QB he didnt hand pick.

skinsfan69 · 12-09-2014, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

In fact, I think a strong leader would call both Gruden and Griffin into his office and put the cards on the table. Say listen Jay I'm into you for $20M so you're my coach. And Robert I still believe that you can become the QB we thought, and I don't want to give up on the massive investment we have in you.

But Jay, your success as a head coach in this league depends on whether you can get performance from Robert and the rest of the team. Robert, your ability to secure a second contract in this league depends on your ability to take coaching and improve, because you've been terrible.

Your wagons are hitched together. And my wagon is hitched to both of yours. Now go back to the sandbox and learn how to get along, get this thing turned in the right direction, or you'll both be moving on from these contracts. If you want other teams to look at you as worthy of a future big contract, you'll need to do this together.

You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures.

Gruden has actually PLAYED the position. Doesn't make much sense for anyone to tell him what QB to play. What a real leader would do is tell the coach to play whomever gives the team the best chance to win. If that's Griffin, by all means play him. If it's not, sit him on the bench or trade him. At this point, or next year, there needs to be competition for the position and may the best man win.

Giantone · 12-09-2014, 03:42 PM

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Gruden has actually PLAYED the position. Doesn't make much sense for anyone to tell him what QB to play.

lol So did Zorn and he was pretty good at it .

Schneed10 · 12-09-2014, 02:12 PM

And then I tell Jay to fire Haslett and I hire a football man as GM. Then I go party with Jerry Jones and strippers.

MTK · 12-09-2014, 05:44 PM

There's only 32 of these jobs in the world. There's always someone out there willing to take on an exclusive job at $5m or more per year.

Hijinx · 12-09-2014, 05:46 PM

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There's only 32 of these jobs in the world. There's always someone out there willing to take on an exclusive job at $5m or more per year.

Ya, but will they be any better than Gruden? Sometimes is the job and not the employee.

calia · 12-09-2014, 05:53 PM

My fantasy is Bill Cowher. I would love to see him coach the Redskins. I cannot imagine he'd want to deal with the insanity that is this franchise, but he'd crack some skulls and get results, man. Sigh -- won't ever happen.

SolidSnake84 · 12-09-2014, 05:58 PM

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My fantasy is Bill Cowher. I would love to see him coach the Redskins. I cannot imagine he'd want to deal with the insanity that is this franchise, but he'd crack some skulls and get results, man. Sigh -- won't ever happen.

I think of Cowher too - but do you imagine he would take the deal knowing that he doesn't make the final decisions on who sees the field?

Really this is almost laughable....the next HC is going to be a guy with no input on who is the starting QB....that's beyond pathetic

12-09-2014, 02:10 PM	#1
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: RG3 and Gruden? In fact, I think a strong leader would call both Gruden and Griffin into his office and put the cards on the table. Say listen Jay I'm into you for $20M so you're my coach. And Robert I still believe that you can become the QB we thought, and I don't want to give up on the massive investment we have in you. But Jay, your success as a head coach in this league depends on whether you can get performance from Robert and the rest of the team. Robert, your ability to secure a second contract in this league depends on your ability to take coaching and improve, because you've been terrible. Your wagons are hitched together. And my wagon is hitched to both of yours. Now go back to the sandbox and learn how to get along, get this thing turned in the right direction, or you'll both be moving on from these contracts. If you want other teams to look at you as worthy of a future big contract, you'll need to do this together. You need each other or the world will view you both separately as failures. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

12-09-2014, 02:12 PM	#2
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 58 Posts: 4,023	Re: RG3 and Gruden? Entirely as an aside (let's face it, there's nothing uplifting about our team) -- I like these: Navy Football Team to Wear Custom Uniforms for Army Match-up « CBS DC __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

12-09-2014, 02:12 PM	#11
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: RG3 and Gruden? And then I tell Jay to fire Haslett and I hire a football man as GM. Then I go party with Jerry Jones and strippers. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: RG3 and Gruden? There's only 32 of these jobs in the world. There's always someone out there willing to take on an exclusive job at $5m or more per year. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-09-2014, 05:53 PM	#14
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 58 Posts: 4,023	Re: RG3 and Gruden? My fantasy is Bill Cowher. I would love to see him coach the Redskins. I cannot imagine he'd want to deal with the insanity that is this franchise, but he'd crack some skulls and get results, man. Sigh -- won't ever happen. __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

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