Jets In The Market For Qb! (MEGA MERGE)

[Gmanc711]

Gibbs already "allegedly" stated that if Brunell were to go down for a significant period of time, Campbell, not Ramsey would be the guy. I dont know if thats true or not, but if it is, I'd say trade Ramsey if we got a good offer (2nd round or better). I love Ramsey, and will cheer for him anywhere pretty much, but its obvious his days here are over so if the Jets offered somthing, we'd have to look into it.

[offiss]

I just think that Ramsey should get a real opportunity somewhere else, he owe's us nothing, Gibbs has no confidence in him, he's treated him like a redheaded stepchild from day 1, so why would he have any interest in keeping him? Even if Brunell goes down Gibbs has made it clear he can't win with Ramsey, so why even bother? Might as well look to the future with Campbell, that is why we gave up next years draft isn't it? Orton is starting, Manning started last season, I don't see why Campbell wouldn't be in there if Brunell goes down, this is the new NFL, rookies who's teams invest heavily in start their first year, Campbell should be no exception!

[portisdash57]

Wonder how LC would feel if Ramsey went to the Jets.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by portisdash57

Wonder how LC would feel if Ramsey went to the Jets.

Laveranues was supposedly a big fan of Ramsey. However, I don't see this thing working out. The Jets are not going to shell out a high draft pick for someone when they have so much invested in Chad Pennington. Plus, the Redskins are reluctant to trade Ramsey.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Laveranues was supposedly a big fan of Ramsey. However, I don't see this thing working out. The Jets are not going to shell out a high draft pick for someone when they have so much invested in Chad Pennington. Plus, the Redskins are reluctant to trade Ramsey.

Pennington is hurt in a bad way. in a nervous, semi-permanent way unfortunately. even healthy though, Chris Carter said it best "he packs a water gun". i think Ramsey would be a real nice pickup for them, for anybody really (except in the NFC East booo), with the water cannon he's got.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by offiss

I just think that Ramsey should get a real opportunity somewhere else, he owe's us nothing, Gibbs has no confidence in him, he's treated him like a redheaded stepchild from day 1, so why would he have any interest in keeping him? Even if Brunell goes down Gibbs has made it clear he can't win with Ramsey, so why even bother? Might as well look to the future with Campbell, that is why we gave up next years draft isn't it? Orton is starting, Manning started last season, I don't see why Campbell wouldn't be in there if Brunell goes down, this is the new NFL, rookies who's teams invest heavily in start their first year, Campbell should be no exception!

I would like to see Ramsey get an oppurtunity elsewhere, as well. He has a lot of heart. Tough guy! However, the only thing Gibbs did TO him is give him the same oppurtunity he gave the other QB's on staff. If Gibbs, picking up Brunell, or drafting Campbell rained on PR's parade, or traumatized him so he could not adequately perform. That does make him appear rather fragile for this line of work. If that is true, he did not stand a chance in the every day game stress in the NFL not to mention crunch games. In light of recent events, obviously Gibb's made the right moves, and I applaud him for it!
I listened to an interview with yesterday with Doug Wililams. To paraphrase, "Joe Gibbs ALWAYS made decisions based on the best move for the Redskins organization". "Never anything personal". "I did not agree with him benching me, as I thought I was the best QB". "All players think the same thing". but even then, he did what was best for the organization".
I for one have been SERIOUSLY enjoying the feeling of KICKING the BOYS ASS (after an eternal drought)! Thankyou JOE for that feeling

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by offiss

I just think that Ramsey should get a real opportunity somewhere else, he owe's us nothing, Gibbs has no confidence in him, he's treated him like a redheaded stepchild from day 1, so why would he have any interest in keeping him? Even if Brunell goes down Gibbs has made it clear he can't win with Ramsey, so why even bother? Might as well look to the future with Campbell, that is why we gave up next years draft isn't it? Orton is starting, Manning started last season, I don't see why Campbell wouldn't be in there if Brunell goes down, this is the new NFL, rookies who's teams invest heavily in start their first year, Campbell should be no exception!

I agree 100%, offiss. This may be our window of opportunity to get the most value for PR. One thing is for sure, Pennington may not be 100% for the rest of the year. Jason Campbell should have enough of the playbook down to feel comfortable if he's needed at this point.

I don't think the Jets can't wait until week six to start wheeling and dealing for a QB for a couple of reasons: By the time any new QB get's acclimated to their system, it may be around week 9 or 10. Which leads to the second reason, their playoff hopes may be out of the window at that point. If they are going to make a move and stay in the hunt, Baltimore too I might add, they should do something before week four in my opinion.

We'll see how all this shakes out!

[Dana87]

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Gibbs already "allegedly" stated that if Brunell were to go down for a significant period of time, Campbell, not Ramsey would be the guy.QUOTE]


I doubt very seriously that Gibbs ever said that. First of all it doesn't make sense. Even if Brunell is hurt and out and extended amount of time, why would you through away the rest of the season. With Ramsey you still have a chance to win games. With Campbell it would be to much for the rookie to handle. Gibbs would not do that to the other 52 guys playing their guts out to try to bring the winning tradition back to DC.

[Gmanc711]

[QUOTE=Dana87]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Gibbs already "allegedly" stated that if Brunell were to go down for a significant period of time, Campbell, not Ramsey would be the guy.QUOTE]


I doubt very seriously that Gibbs ever said that. First of all it doesn't make sense. Even if Brunell is hurt and out and extended amount of time, why would you through away the rest of the season. With Ramsey you still have a chance to win games. With Campbell it would be to much for the rookie to handle. Gibbs would not do that to the other 52 guys playing their guts out to try to bring the winning tradition back to DC.

Just what Mort said on ESPN Monday Night Countdown last week, I'm just repeating the message.

[skinsfan0201]

[QUOTE=Dana87]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Gibbs already "allegedly" stated that if Brunell were to go down for a significant period of time, Campbell, not Ramsey would be the guy.QUOTE]


I doubt very seriously that Gibbs ever said that. First of all it doesn't make sense. Even if Brunell is hurt and out and extended amount of time, why would you through away the rest of the season. With Ramsey you still have a chance to win games. With Campbell it would be to much for the rookie to handle. Gibbs would not do that to the other 52 guys playing their guts out to try to bring the winning tradition back to DC.

I agree with Dana, especially considering Gibbs inclination to go with veterans in the first place which at least Ramsey has a good deal more experience and I don't think that Gibbs will throw all of his beliefs and thoughts about how he has typically done things outside the window. This is evidenced by moves he has already made.

[56FAN]

if they offer a 1st it would be tough to walk away from it. anything less i would say walk away from it.i 'm not soo totaly convinsed his time here is over. thing's in the nfl can turn on a dime.i am glad i don't have to make the call.

[firstdown]

I do not see Gibbs trading Ramsey so early in the season If Brunell goes down and we are winning I would think Ramsey would be the guy. If we are loosing games Campbell will be our guy to get him ready for next year. I think it would be hard to get a 1st for Ramsey when our coach is not very high on him. It would almost be funny to see Ramsey throwing to Coles only to have him drop the ball.

[Big C]

theres no question we shoudl accept a 1st rounder if we got an offer for one. hell i think we'd be lucky to get a 3rd round pick

[illdefined]

er Hog1, i think most agree keeping Brunell in so long last year wasn't the best thing for the team. i'm sure it was meant to be, but it showed Gibbs gave 'his' QB around a thousand more chances than he ever gave Ramsey.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by illdefined

er Hog1, i think most agree keeping Brunell in so long last year wasn't the best thing for the team. i'm sure it was meant to be, but it showed Gibbs gave 'his' QB around a thousand more chances than he ever gave Ramsey.

i think that keeping Brunell in for nine games was inpart do to the poor play of Ramsey in last years preason. How could he have felt bringing in Ramsey would help when he played worse than Brunell in preseason. Ramsey had several chances, last preseason, the game against the Giants with 3 ints, last seven games with another 8 int, this preseason with 4int to 2tds, first game 1int 2fumbles. I just did not see Ramsey take advantage of any opportunities. Brunell is not much better but I have the feeling Ramsey would not have pull out the victory in Dallas. I hope Ramsey can find a team and has great success in the NFL and its time for the skins to move forward.