Fix the Line Thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

Cooley would disagree with a lot on this board. He seems to be of the opinion that our offensive line as a whole is actually solid... pins a lot of the blame on the QBs, RBs, and TEs.



I think Trent and Lavuao for sure are going to be starters next year, both because they fit what Gruden wants and because they've been getting the job done. Lichtensteiger has been our best lineman at times, but he's smaller and not as powerful as Trent and Lavuao. I think there's a decent chance he starts next year. Chester I can't see starting. I don't care what Gruden and Cooley say, he needs to hit the road. At RT, Compton has been better than Polumbus, but of course that's not setting the bar very high. I think Moses(depending on health) and Compton battle for the job next year, with maybe someone else thrown in the mix.

I'd agree a lot of blame has to go on the backs and TE's who have done a shitty job all year at picking up their assignments. Indecisive decision making at QB is also a factor. That said we definitely need to continue to improve the line.

[Alvin Walton]

Well then Cooley is a shitty analyst because you can see the pocket collapse almost immediately on most plays.

[drew54]

2015
Polumbus is a UFA.
Compton is an RFA.
2016
Williams is a UFA.
Chester is a UFA.
LeRibeus is a UFA.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by drew54

2015
Polumbus is a UFA.
Compton is an RFA.
2016
Williams is a UFA.
Chester is a UFA.
LeRibeus is a UFA.

IMO, Compton (city of) should stay. Moses and Long obviously should be back. Kory L and Silverblunt should be back. I dont think we can cut Lauvo, but I think a decision should be made to bring in competition to challenge his spot. LeRibeaus has had opportunity, he should be cut. My plan would be too draft a Tackle with our first pick if one is there (should be). I think the plan should be to first him to start at RT with a plan to replace Silverblunt if the blunted one thinks he is gonna get a Tryon Smith-type deal.

I think we go into free agency looking for a solid Right Guard and a Vetern Guard who can push Lauvo. We would be replacing 2 starters, and possibly a third starter.

Before all of this is done though, we have fired our current Oline coach

[Evilgrin]

We do decent going forwards for run blocking, but no one can block going backwards(except trent).

We need Scherff!

[diehardskin2982]

We need a blocking TE, we don't have that player on the roster. I also think the coaching staff has often left weak players on an island to be destroyed. We need to see what we have in Spencer Long. He needs the game reps. Also, I think Russ Grimm needs to be hired as a coach or a consultant to assist with the development of this line.

[NC_Skins]

Our biggest area of need is interior OL, not RT as most presume. As SirLK26 and Matty pointed out, you can thank shitty blocking by RB (alfred in particular) and TEs for a horrendous job on pass pro as well. I still think the biggest issue is QB play, which has to be much more decisive and get the ball out faster. QB play can make it look like you have the best OL in the world or the worst. It's no coincidence that the teams with QBs having the slowest release times are hammered by fans for having a shitty OL.

[Meks]

Just draft any players declaring eligibility on the O Line from Stanford with late picks. Those players are big, ass, bullies. I've watched enough Cardinal games this year to see that they could succeed at the next level. They just bully people over, literally.

All this of course, in addition to getting a RT in the first or second round, please. Fix the RT position. I just don't have a ton of hope for Moses, sadly.

[diehardskin2982]

LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

Could Luvall move to the right side?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

Could Luvall move to the right side?

Wheres my shiny new first rounder?

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

Could Luvall move to the right side?

I'd prefer that he move back to Cleveland. He was owned by a slow fat guy in the Giants game.

[Alvin Walton]

Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

Yeah he couldn't beat out Polumbus or Compton. Too early to give up on him but no way is he penciled in as the starting rt.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by Alvin Walton

Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yeah he couldn't beat out Polumbus or Compton. Too early to give up on him but no way is he penciled in as the starting rt.

You can't expect a 3rd round rookie to win a starting job in his first season. It's just not reasonable. Even some high-first round linemen have to sit a while before they start. I think Moses has been solid enough in limited action that as long as he recovers in time, he can compete for the job. Nobody's penciling him in as the starter. That would be foolish... as foolish as writing him off as a career backup at this point.

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

You can't expect a 3rd round rookie to win a starting job in his first season. It's just not reasonable. Even some high-first round linemen have to sit a while before they start. I think Moses has been solid enough in limited action that as long as he recovers in time, he can compete for the job. Nobody's penciling him in as the starter. That would be foolish... as foolish as writing him off as a career backup at this point.

I totally agree, O-lineman take the longest to develop, but have the longest careers. He was our first pick that year, but he was a 3rd rounder. Generally speaking the 1st rounders should be stars, the 2nd rounders are 1st year starters. Beyond that you can not look at those guys to be huge game changing players.