Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

No DeSean Jackson
No Jamison Crowder
No Jordan Reed
No Niles Paul
No Logan Paulsen
No Trent Williams
No Ryan Kerrigan
No Jason Hatcher
No Junior Galette
No DeAngelo Hall
No Bashaud Breeland

Given the above, I'm not surprised with anything I have seen so far this preseason. I'm not too worried either (maybe a little worried about RGIII's health).

The O-line will get it together. I'm glad they are facing stiff competition early. Not glad they are getting bulldozed, but once the starting five have had a few weeks together I think they will be solid.

The "new" TE's will learn the offense and contribute - hopefully both blocking and receiving. Paul and Paulsen injuries are a real setback here and probably my biggest concern.

The defense will be better with our projected top two pass rushers and starting corners back in there.

I think we have a lot of quality depth which will translate into better special teams play this year.

To sum it up, if Robert can survive the preseason, and we can get all our projected starters back in there for game 1 against Miami, I think we'll be ok.

strong post...but the only name which has really affected RG3 is obviously Trent. Maybe TE to an extent, but they arent known for blocking

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

strong post...but the only name which has really affected RG3 is obviously Trent. Maybe TE to an extent, but they arent known for blocking

I don't know if you could say that. I mean not having your biggest WR threat in DeSean Jackson changes what the opposing defense needs to worry about. Not having Trent creates a ripple effect along the O-line as far as communication and responsibilities go. That coupled with TEs that are still learning the offense and their own responsibilities would seem to contribute to the jail breaks we saw last night....the right side of the O-line is what it is though. They need to get better, and I believe they will.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Plus, 2-0, minus, lots and lots of work to do.

RG3 needs to stay healthy. Want to see him play 16 games and see where he's at at the end of the year.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Plus, 2-0, minus, lots and lots of work to do.



RG3 needs to stay healthy. Want to see him play 16 games and see where he's at at the end of the year.

Ha! No way he plays 16 games

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Ha! No way he plays 16 games

I'm a Skins fan, what I Want and what actually happens are never close lol. But I can dream.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Plus, 2-0, minus, lots and lots of work to do.

RG3 needs to stay healthy. Want to see him play 16 games and see where he's at at the end of the year.

2-0 because of back ups. Good teams don't give a hoot about winning preseason games.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

2-0 because of back ups. Good teams don't give a hoot about winning preseason games.

"You play to win the game"

Herm Edwards

Rather be 2-0 with lots of work to do than 0-2 with lots of work to do. And I want our backups to be better than our opponents we will need a lot of them at some point.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

"You play to win the game"

Herm Edwards

Rather be 2-0 with lots of work to do than 0-2 with lots of work to do. And I want our backups to be better than our opponents we will need a lot of them at some point.

nope, worst case we are 1-1, this was a throw away game where coaches should have been looking at our players and what they can do. I go back to the decision not to try for an end game field goal as partial proof that at least in one instance that was not their intent.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Plus, 2-0, minus, lots and lots of work to do.

RG3 needs to stay healthy. Want to see him play 16 games and see where he's at at the end of the year.

I would say the 2-0 is a minus. Why? Because coaching isn't playing risky. They aren't coaching in a style that let's them evaluate the at risk positions. I was so infuriated at the end of the game yesterday because coaching was so unbelievably namby pamby. You get the ball with 2 minutes to go, in the 2nd preseason game. You have a FG kicker who has had a struggling camp. A qb who will start at some point in the season, very few players who an injury will hurt the team on the field, and a running game that has no questions. Do you:
A) put it on the qb's shoulders and say show some hustle, get out there and lead a 2 minute drive. TD is the goal.

B) mix it up, run and pass but tell the qb we want to take a shot at a long (45+) field goal

C) try to "stay on a roll" and win a 2nd straight preseason game with 7 straight hand offs.

[over the mountain]

The O line didnt help RG3 last night and he didnt help the O line.

Its just more of the same from him. A dysfunctional offense when he is in there.

Ive seen enough to know that what he has been, he will continue to be.

[Chico23231]

Another minus...who pissed in my kool aid?

[SFREDSKIN]

Plusses:

Reggie Bell WR
Bates LB 3rd sack of pre-season
JJeffcoat
RB's Jones. Thompson, Williams
P way
Young TE's with 2 nice long gainers
Cut back on offensive penalties in pre-season games

Minusses:

Losing Hayward and Paul on ST's (huge losses)
OL protection and RGIII (horrible job by 1st stringers)
Bad tackling job by DB's and LB's
Where was Preston Smith? Didn't do much

[JoeRedskin]

Coming in the middle here ... but, was at the game. Came away feeling like neither Jay nor RGIII is close to what I had hoped they would be.

The more I thought about that, the deeper and more depressed I got.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Coming in the middle here ... but, was at the game. Came away feeling like neither Jay nor RGIII is close to what I had hoped they would be.

The more I thought about that, the deeper and more depressed I got.

I cant wait till they get out of fed ex. that spot looked depressing on tv...zero energy. I feel terrible you were there to witness it...It looked absolutely horrible on tv.

People here at working are just laughing at the Skins. Litterally one guy saw me enter the building and he just started laughing...uncontrollably.

[Ruhskins]

Another issue that I had with the team last night is the lack of adjustment once they saw that the first-team offensive line was getting pounded. Where were the screen passes, possible read-option, and quick/short slants?

This team needs to stop depending solely on QB play; and learn to adjust when the o-line is not being effective. Focus more on the run, and make the passing game complimentary to the run. This should be happening, regardless of who's back there at QB.