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MTK · 10-10-2005, 09:04 PM

Coy might have been part of the spark that got Gibbs interested in coming back, but I really don't believe Gibbs comes back unless his heart is in to this thing 110%. Gibbs came back because of his love for the franchise, the fans and the city. He came back for the challenge of doing it all over again.

sniks · 10-10-2005, 09:06 PM

Gregg Williams hasn't won anything as a head coach.Don't believe he even made the playoffs.He couldn't even hold Joe Gibbs jock strap when it comes to head coaching.

SkinsFan3000 · 10-10-2005, 10:29 PM

joe gibbs is a proven winner. go skins!

saskin · 10-10-2005, 10:51 PM

I think Gibbs came back to get the program straightened out before leaving it again. I hope he goes the full contract but I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave at the end of this year or next.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-10-2005, 11:25 PM

Williams is a great defensive coach, but he has yet to prove himself to be a great head coach. Gibbs has proven that he is an excellent coordinator and head coach. Williams might be a great head coach in the future, but Gibbs already is one.

skinsguy · 10-10-2005, 11:33 PM

There's no comparison. Gregg Williams is a mastermind defensively, but he had a rough go as head coach with Buffalo, so to even entertain the thought that Williams would be a better head coach than Joe Gibbs....I just want to see proof! So far, there is none. Maybe down the road possibly....and if it is with the Redskins...then hopefully. However, I would challenge anybody to go back and watch today's press conference. If you don't think Gibbs is intense, you're just not paying attention.

Joe Gibbs is slowly proving himself once more and proving all his critics wrong.....we've already had several fans having to eat crow, and it's just a matter of time until the media and the rest of the league join in with a big heaping of it as well.

Luxorreb · 10-11-2005, 03:35 AM

As long as he's healthy and the team fights every week I think he'll be here atleast another year and probably the full length of the 5 year contract. I think Williams will be a shoe in for head coach if he stays the length of Gibbs' tenure. Both of them seem to get along well and respect each other greatly. For know let's hope they can get us into the playoffs and beyond this year!!!

RedskinNation21 · 10-11-2005, 03:43 AM

Williams needs to learn to use his other pro bowl linebacker before he can be a head coach

JWsleep · 10-11-2005, 03:36 AM

I love Williams press conferences--always get me fired up. And his defenses have been great. But Gibbs has a range of skills in dealing with people that Williams lacks, IMHO. Gibbs has a way of getting the most out of people, whatever it is that they do. Did his NASCAR team thrive because he was an "offensive genius"? No, it's becuase he knows how to manage and inspire people. Williams is a tough dude and will rip you a new one, no doubt. But GIbbs gets into people's souls.

I'm totally into Williams, but he has yet to do it as a head coach. I believe he will some day, because he'll have had the privledge of learning from the best.

Hog1 · 10-11-2005, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fan4Life

This may piss a lot of people off but after watching an interview on comcast with Greg Williams,I wish he was the head coach. He as an attitude that I just dont see in Gibbs. When the team screws up Gibbs says well,we played hard and we never quit,blah blah blah. Williams was pissed and it showed. He dont try to sugar coat what went wrong he points fingers. GOOD! tell it like it is for a change. Portis fumbled and cost us 7. Gibbs woulda said, well it was a wet ball. Maybe so but GW said it was in his stomach and he dropped it. I like Gibbs a lot but when he calls it quits I sure hope Danielmoneybags can keep GW . A coach needs to be feared and respected not just respected.

I would certainly agree with part of your post. I think you did piss off a lot of people! However, the remainder hs been thoroughly covered.

Daseal · 10-11-2005, 07:47 AM

dblanch -- I don't think Gibbs will have a choice if he leaves early. It may be because of Coy, but I also think his health status may not be up to the task. I think that's the biggest concern as far as his coaching longevity. It's a lot of stress and work, especially for someone as old as Gibbs.

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Williams needs to learn to use his other pro bowl linebacker before he can be a head coach

Maybe that other Pro Bowl linebacker needs to learn to play into a scheme and realize that when he freelances he hurts the team more often than he helps it.

skinsguy · 10-11-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

dblanch -- I don't think Gibbs will have a choice if he leaves early. It may be because of Coy, but I also think his health status may not be up to the task. I think that's the biggest concern as far as his coaching longevity. It's a lot of stress and work, especially for someone as old as Gibbs.

Maybe that other Pro Bowl linebacker needs to learn to play into a scheme and realize that when he freelances he hurts the team more often than he helps it.

Joe Gibbs is rather healthy - healthiest he's been in years. At least, as healthy as a diabetic can be. Keep in mind also, he's not the oldest coach in the league. Dick Vermil is much older than Joe Gibbs...and let's not forget the offensive coordinator for Indy who is in his 70's! JB isn't feeble. Of course now, if we keep playing close games like we have been playing, all of us are going to have heart conditions by the end of the season, LOL!

skinsguy · 10-11-2005, 08:21 AM

It's funny how you guys think Joe Gibbs is on his death bed or something. He's not even the oldest head coach in the league.

#56fanatic · 10-11-2005, 08:32 AM

Joe is not on his Death bed, but being as old as he is, and diabetic, is not a recipe for success, especially the way he works very late every night. He is prone to those attacks. He doesn't eat well and dont forget his wife, she said he wasn't going to do this for long. Joe is probably in better shape than me, but he can't continue to work 20 hours a day, and eat like crap and expect to STAY healthy. Until then, hes a hall of famer and we are lucky he is our sideline, AGAIN!!

MTK · 10-11-2005, 08:22 AM

Gibbs will be here 5 years. All the speculation regarding his health is just that, speculation.

He's probably healthier than he was 15 years ago.

The only way I see him stepping down prior to that is if the Skins win it all.

10-10-2005, 09:04 PM	#1
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Better coach Coy might have been part of the spark that got Gibbs interested in coming back, but I really don't believe Gibbs comes back unless his heart is in to this thing 110%. Gibbs came back because of his love for the franchise, the fans and the city. He came back for the challenge of doing it all over again. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-10-2005, 09:06 PM	#2
sniks Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT. Age: 66 Posts: 97	Re: Better coach Gregg Williams hasn't won anything as a head coach.Don't believe he even made the playoffs.He couldn't even hold Joe Gibbs jock strap when it comes to head coaching.

10-10-2005, 10:29 PM	#3
SkinsFan3000 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 41	Re: Better coach joe gibbs is a proven winner. go skins!

10-10-2005, 10:51 PM	#4
saskin Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Antonio Age: 38 Posts: 355	Re: Better coach I think Gibbs came back to get the program straightened out before leaving it again. I hope he goes the full contract but I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave at the end of this year or next.

10-10-2005, 11:33 PM	#6
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Better coach There's no comparison. Gregg Williams is a mastermind defensively, but he had a rough go as head coach with Buffalo, so to even entertain the thought that Williams would be a better head coach than Joe Gibbs....I just want to see proof! So far, there is none. Maybe down the road possibly....and if it is with the Redskins...then hopefully. However, I would challenge anybody to go back and watch today's press conference. If you don't think Gibbs is intense, you're just not paying attention. Joe Gibbs is slowly proving himself once more and proving all his critics wrong.....we've already had several fans having to eat crow, and it's just a matter of time until the media and the rest of the league join in with a big heaping of it as well. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-10-2005, 11:25 PM	#5
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Better coach Williams is a great defensive coach, but he has yet to prove himself to be a great head coach. Gibbs has proven that he is an excellent coordinator and head coach. Williams might be a great head coach in the future, but Gibbs already is one.

10-11-2005, 03:35 AM	#7
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 54 Posts: 1,630	Re: Better coach As long as he's healthy and the team fights every week I think he'll be here atleast another year and probably the full length of the 5 year contract. I think Williams will be a shoe in for head coach if he stays the length of Gibbs' tenure. Both of them seem to get along well and respect each other greatly. For know let's hope they can get us into the playoffs and beyond this year!!! __________________ ^21^

10-11-2005, 03:43 AM	#8
RedskinNation21 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 26	Re: Better coach Williams needs to learn to use his other pro bowl linebacker before he can be a head coach

10-11-2005, 03:36 AM	#9
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 57 Posts: 4,719	Re: Better coach I love Williams press conferences--always get me fired up. And his defenses have been great. But Gibbs has a range of skills in dealing with people that Williams lacks, IMHO. Gibbs has a way of getting the most out of people, whatever it is that they do. Did his NASCAR team thrive because he was an "offensive genius"? No, it's becuase he knows how to manage and inspire people. Williams is a tough dude and will rip you a new one, no doubt. But GIbbs gets into people's souls. I'm totally into Williams, but he has yet to do it as a head coach. I believe he will some day, because he'll have had the privledge of learning from the best. __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-11-2005, 08:21 AM	#13
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Better coach It's funny how you guys think Joe Gibbs is on his death bed or something. He's not even the oldest head coach in the league. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

10-11-2005, 08:32 AM	#14
#56fanatic The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charlotte NC Age: 51 Posts: 1,801	Re: Better coach Joe is not on his Death bed, but being as old as he is, and diabetic, is not a recipe for success, especially the way he works very late every night. He is prone to those attacks. He doesn't eat well and dont forget his wife, she said he wasn't going to do this for long. Joe is probably in better shape than me, but he can't continue to work 20 hours a day, and eat like crap and expect to STAY healthy. Until then, hes a hall of famer and we are lucky he is our sideline, AGAIN!!

10-11-2005, 08:22 AM	#15
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Better coach Gibbs will be here 5 years. All the speculation regarding his health is just that, speculation. He's probably healthier than he was 15 years ago. The only way I see him stepping down prior to that is if the Skins win it all. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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