Who's better, Clinton Portis or Tatum Bell?

[BigSKINBauer]

there are laws against those kind of signatures

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Bell hasn't been a factor in 20 of the 21 games that the Broncos have played since he was drafted. It's a tad early to try to compare Bell to Portis. Denver's "system" does make backs look better than they really are, but Portis is the real deal.

[Paintrain]

I'm amazed that this lunacy was even entertained for 3 pages.. Let it end now.

[mooby]

you guys don't know what the 1337 language is? awe, you oldsters. 1337 is the language of speaking over the internet replacing letters with numbers and symbols. it's like the cool language of the kids who spend a lot of time on the internet. you have your normal users that post in english, then you have your "cool" group who likes to talk in numbers and symbols, yet it looks like actual letters.

[MTK]

Is this it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

[BigSKINBauer]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Is this it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

Yes that would be it. i prefer 1337 over 133t because if your are gonna spell it out then why not just elite. I don't know if or when i have ever used it but i am gonna use it now

I'm 1337 BITCH

[mooby]

yeah it is.that pretty much sums it up. i don't speak it, cuz for me its' kinda confusing, and it wastes too much time trying to translate.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by offiss

Portis, or Bell?

Well if we evaluate this move based on the last game it's a no brainer, it's Bell. Yes the player that was drafted with #2 pick we sent to Denver along with Bailey for Portis. I would include the fact that Bell is probably making somewhere around 8 million, compared to Portis's 50 mil, but I don't think that's really neccassary.

I will say it, system back, I TOLD YOU SO!

Looks like Shanahan knew what he was doing after all.

It is nothing short of asinine to say that Tatum Bell is better than Clinton Portis based on one isolated game. I expect better from you, offiss.

[GoSkins!]

Timmy Smith. If one game means everything.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It is nothing short of asinine to say that Tatum Bell is better than Clinton Portis based on one isolated game. I expect better from you, offiss.

As you can see in the headline there is a question mark, and the question was after 1 game, now I want to know who believes Portis outperformed Bell? Now that would be asinine.

Let's see, Bell scored 2 long TD's on crucial 3rd down plays, and rushed for 127 yds. against the toughest run defense in the league, In fact he's the only back to do it in the last year or so, and yes he did it without a passing game. Yes that's right I said 2 rushing TD's in 1 game against us, that's 1 shy of Portis's carreer rushing TD's for us.

Portis, fumbled once which resulted in a TD for denver, but apparently made some nice blocks on Al Wilson, but he did manage to crack the 100 yard barrier, so I guess I have to admit, I WAS WRONG!

Personally I believe without a doubt that Portis is a better pure runner and player than Bell, I also agree with many evaluation's through this thread on that comparison, but I really didn't start this thread to find out who believes Bell is better than Portis, I started this thread to shed light on the fact that even a player like Bell can put up big time numbers against the #1 run defense in that denver system, only to aluminate the fact that Portis is vastly over valued because of what he has done in that system, he has done nothing for us remotly resembling what he did in Denver? I am tired of hearing 1300yds, if you run a player enough and he can stay healthy that's very obtainable, the most telling stat is his 3.8 yards per carry, and he does not get it done in short yardage.

Bottom line you can't gauge a RB in denver, it's like trying to gauge a home run hitter at coors field in colorado, they both stop hitting HR's when they leave.

I don't lie to my friends and tell them how great they are when there not, and I am not going to talk about how great we are just because the Skins are my team, by buying into everything they do whether it is right, wrong, or indifferent.


Does anyone think that the Portis we have seen, is the same back you expected to see when we traded for him?

[jamf]

[MTK]

That's too easy, either that or I've absorbed this nerdy 1337 stuff way too quickly LOL

[mooby]

lol yeah that was pretty easy, try harder next time.

[wheeler]

i'll tell you one thing we needed ARRINGTON in that ball game , i thought portis needed more carries.........take away the tuck (b.s.) rule we're in ..........

[jamf]

portis cant block for himself. the line was terrible last year. the opposing teams stacked the line against portis because there was no passing threat.

portis went from a top 5 offence to a bottom 5 offence with difference of 200 yards. thats pretty damn good.

look at it this way, what back in our system last year would've ran for more yards/tds than portis? Tomlinson is the best back in the league and thats the only one that comes to mind.
how do you think bell wouldve played in our system last year?