In Season Redskins Roster Grades

[Chico23231]

Good morning folks! Out of curiosity a couple years ago I subscribed to PFF( Profootball Focus) just to see how they looked at players in the league and graded out talent. PFF as a whole has kinda picked up steam as now its referenced by major media outlets as a viable source.

Now I know about the hate, but a lot of times Ive found the grades have kind of matched up to what I saw on the field. Other times its seemed completely off. Either way it can spark good conversation when it comes down to talking about ways we can improve as a team and which part of the team seems like ballers.

There a lot of other cool sources besides PFF...feel free to share and provide input.

So far with PFF when looking at basic performance grades with the Skins our guys playing well are Norman, Wil Compton, Trent Williams, Trent Murphy, Chris Baker and Sau Cravens.

Struggling on Defense: Deshawn Phillips, David Bruton, Preston Smith, Ziggy Hood, Ricky Jean and Breeland.

Struggling on Offense: Cousins and Chris Thompson.

Surprise is the Oline as a unit...they have them excelling at Pass Blocking and Ok at Run blocking, but overall solid unit. Kory L rating much higher than last year is something to note...They have him at an avg rate among NFL Centers.


Couple things to watch...Could Kendall Fuller (Nickel) and Duke Ihenacho be giving more opportunities to play? Sua Cravens has earned more playing time...What about playing Fuller on the outside and sliding Breeland to Nickel?


Sure you can use this thread to take shots at PFF or we can talk performance and accountability with the roster.

[SirLK26]

What is Matt Jones grade so far?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Surprise is the Oline as a unit...they have them excelling at Pass Blocking and Ok at Run blocking, but overall solid unit. Kory L rating much higher than last year is something to note...They have him at an avg rate among NFL Centers.

I totally with agree with them on that. Beside Kory, our O-line is doing a great job so far. Makes me regret we didn't give Bryan Stork a real chance even more. But they know better than me, must have seen something about him that scared them off.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SirLK26

What is Matt Jones grade so far?

mid 70s...which consider mid NFL standard. But remember the sample size is low for him and not because of injury effing Gruden and McVay


Also compare to our other skill players on the offense, Matt Jones has been inline performing at a solid NFL level along with Reed, Vernon davis, D-Jax and Garcon. They had Crowder, Niles paul and (as I mention above) Chris Thompson rated as under performing so far. Thompson was actually rated really poor. And to be honest, Thompson does nothing to move the needle in my eyes.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I totally with agree with them on that. Beside Kory, our O-line is doing a great job so far. Makes me regret we didn't give Bryan Stork a real chance even more. But they know better than me, must have seen something about him that scared them off.

they got them as one of the top rated pass blocking Oline units in the league...So that says Cousins being kept clean with time. So pressure hasn't been an issue with his performance.

I agree, I didn't see Pittsburgh or the Cowboys really putting Cousins on the ground.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

they got them as one of the top rated pass blocking Oline units in the league...So that says Cousins being kept clean with time. So pressure hasn't been an issue with his performance.

I agree, I didn't see Pittsburgh or the Cowboys really putting Cousins on the ground.

Some of that is matchup-dependent, of course. Neither team has any pass rushers to speak of. We'll see how we hold up against some of the better pass rushing lines, but I agree that pass blocking in general has been great. Cousins has been sacked, what, 2 times so far?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Some of that is matchup-dependent, of course. Neither team has any pass rushers to speak of. We'll see how we hold up against some of the better pass rushing lines, but I agree that pass blocking in general has been great. Cousins has been sacked, what, 2 times so far?

Yep, 2 times by the cowboys. We'll see how they do against a pretty good front 4 this sunday.

[Chico23231]

Right now for comparison terms

Josh Norman is the highest graded CB in the league

Matt Jones is the 10th highest RB

Jordan Reed 9th at TE

Silverback 6th and Moses a respectable 21st

Schreff 10 at G, Luavao 46

Kory L 14th

D Hall 28th Safety

Wil Compton 9th LB, Foster 35th

Chris Baker 19th Interior D Lineman

D Jax 15th WR

[Redskins247]

Interesting stuff...thanks Chico!

[calia]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Right now for comparison terms

Josh Norman is the highest graded CB in the league

Matt Jones is the 10th highest RB

Jordan Reed 9th at TE

Silverback 6th and Moses a respectable 21st

Schreff 10 at G, Luavao 46

Kory L 14th

D Hall 28th Safety

Wil Compton 9th LB, Foster 35th

Chris Baker 19th Interior D Lineman

D Jax 15th WR

How is this possible? Honestly, this grade makes the whole list suspect to me. Kory L. has been terrible. Both the Steelers and Boys (who have a crap D line) have had a push up the middle. Not to mention all the false starts (he has 3 in 2 games -- a lot for any OL and especially a center).

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by calia

How is this possible? Honestly, this grade makes the whole list suspect to me. Kory L. has been terrible. Both the Steelers and Boys (who have a crap D line) have had a push up the middle. Not to mention all the false starts (he has 3 in 2 games -- a lot for any OL and especially a center).

The ranking is taking into account the result of the play. I've been seeing Kory get pushed back into Cousins's lap quite a bit, but only on a few occasions has it resulted in Cousins having to hurry the throw or actually being pressured. In other words, Kory is doing just enough to avert disaster. Against a stronger DT I'm concerned he'll fold like a house of cards - that's just what the eye test tells you. But PFF is grading based on whether the block successfully allowed the QB to deliver the throw without a rush. He's getting by so far, against 2 fairly weak defensive lines.

Have to take these rankings with a grain of salt - in two weeks you've only faced two teams. The rankings are heavily influenced by matchups.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by calia

How is this possible? Honestly, this grade makes the whole list suspect to me. Kory L. has been terrible. Both the Steelers and Boys (who have a crap D line) have had a push up the middle. Not to mention all the false starts (he has 3 in 2 games -- a lot for any OL and especially a center).

Id have to agree, I clearly see him as the weakest link. But Im gonna watch a little closer now.

Couple things kinda stand out with the grading and what im seeing and I mention some above...

But another is Preston Smith and Kerrigan need to pick it up a little bit in rushing the passer. And the grades reflect our lack of production along the Dline.

[FrenchSkin]

I'm as surprised by Kory's grade as I am by Lavao's...

I thought he did a very good job so far, how is he so far behing Kory and Scherff?

[los panda]

it's really hard to focus on offensive line play when watching a live game.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by los panda

it's really hard to focus on offensive line play when watching a live game.

Yeah, but I'm sure the PFF guys are using All-22 film when they do their analysis.