Off season begins.

[skinsfaninok]

Blakmon " we need some experience and leadership next year." This is a great point, we are still a pretty young team folks. We don't have guys that have true playoff experience other than garcon right? Norman last year but that's about it.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Blakmon " we need some experience and leadership next year." This is a great point, we are still a pretty young team folks. We don't have guys that have true playoff experience other than garcon right? Norman last year but that's about it.

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Any more old leadership is going to come at the expense of your roster spot Blackmon. Leadership is nice, but you need actual bodies that can perform at a high level.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Any more old leadership is going to come at the expense of your roster spot Blackmon. Leadership is nice, but you need actual bodies that can perform at a high level.

Lol. Right. He is straight trash. Like most of our Defense.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Any more old leadership is going to come at the expense of your roster spot Blackmon. Leadership is nice, but you need actual bodies that can perform at a high level.

Amen, Brother! Leadership = Making Plays.

[skinsfaninok]

The giants played to win today, we acted like they weren't going to..

[skinsfaninok]

Jay "Our numbers on offense were WOW... But our RZ off was horrible and thats Y we are here today"

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Jay "Our numbers on offense were WOW... But our RZ off was horrible and thats Y we are here today"

Well that on you jay, dumbass. shit went on all year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Well that on you jay, dumbass. shit went on all year.

hes a good coach, 3 years as a HC and has 2 winning seasons. I'll take that

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

A lot of holes have to be filled this spring /summer.

Positives for the year.

Kirk cousins proved that he is a good QB and not a 1 hit wonder like many thought he would be. Is he a top 5 QB? NO but he can be a top 10 passer.

OL for the most part was good all yr.

Offense put up a ton of yards and points, pretty fun too watch most games.

Josh Norman was worth the money.

Kerrigan was solid like usual. Not great

Mason Foster has a lot of potential.

Baker is good.

Reed, garcon, crowder, CT, djax, VD. All had great years.

Gruden is a good coach, he's been here 3 years and has 2 winning seasons. I'll take that.


NEGATIVES.

Run Game was bad most of the yr.

Run def was historically bad, we saw it week 1 against deangelo Williams and it never got better.

Pass rush was avg at best, Preston Smith only plays well against bad lines.

Secondary was injured and bad all yr outside of Norman.

Coaching sucked many games, ESP Barry. Our d is so predictable.

Still think we need a couple new guys on the offensive line, if for solid depth if anything. Josh was a great pickup, but not sure he is worth what we paid him. When his comrades suck it is hard for him to be as effective as he can be.

[skinsfaninok]

I haven't looked but I know at the beginning of the season I said 8-9 wins would be the top this team gets. Most of us did, I'll see if I can find the thread. Point is, we all should feel good about the team. We aren't a joke like we were for many years. Since 2012 we have 3 winning seasons. That's not bad folks. It takes time

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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I haven't looked but I know at the beginning of the season I said 8-9 wins would be the top this team gets. Most of us did, I'll see if I can find the thread. Point is, we all should feel good about the team. We aren't a joke like we were for many years. Since 2012 we have 3 winning seasons. That's not bad folks. It takes time

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Agreed.

The end of the season was the most frustrating of the past few years.
But we have a good team. We are not laughed at as we used to be.

As bad as they look defense is just a few pieces away from being effective: DL, FS (we'll have Cravens doing great at SS next year) are priorities, maybe another CB and a playmaker at MLB to play alongside Foster.

And maybe another DC.
I've defended Barry all season but 3rd down defense speaks bad scheme and bad play calling. Guys showed they would stop offenses on 1st and 2nd down, gotta be able to get them off the field.

Offense we'll be fine. Only head-scratching squad is the O-line. They were great at times, really consistent in pass protection. But the running game wasn't there on a consistent basis. Part of it is play calling. Part of it probably is a not so great vision by Fat Rob. But I blame the O-line for some of it, they didn't open holes consistently. Kelley was touched in the backfield way too many times.
Spencer Long did a really good job but we might need a big ass center for the run game. And maybe a LG.

There's no real holes to fill in this offense so we may be able to spend what's needed on the OL.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Agreed.

The end of the season was the most frustrating of the past few years.
But we have a good team. We are not laughed at as we used to be.

As bad as they look defense is just a few pieces away from being effective: DL, FS (we'll have Cravens doing great at SS next year) are priorities, maybe another CB and a playmaker at MLB to play alongside Foster.

And maybe another DC.
I've defended Barry all season but 3rd down defense speaks bad scheme and bad play calling. Guys showed they would stop offenses on 1st and 2nd down, gotta be able to get them off the field.

Offense we'll be fine. Only head-scratching squad is the O-line. They were great at times, really consistent in pass protection. But the running game wasn't there on a consistent basis. Part of it is play calling. Part of it probably is a not so great vision by Fat Rob. But I blame the O-line for some of it, they didn't open holes consistently. Kelley was touched in the backfield way too many times.
Spencer Long did a really good job but we might need a big ass center for the run game. And maybe a LG.

There's no real holes to fill in this offense so we may be able to spend what's needed on the OL.

There is nothing headscratching...mcvay and Gruden are not committed to running the ball. Stats don't lie, we win we can run the ball. There is no argument against running the ball.

Last night when we were poised to start the drive that would win us the game with 6 and half minutes to go....what happened folks? 3 consecutive throws that gave us the 3 and out and promptly ended the season.

I definitely see us addressing more help at RB and bringing in someone at LG. But the coaching staff needs to address the run game approach.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

There is nothing headscratching...mcvay and Gruden are not committed to running the ball. Stats don't lie, we win we can run the ball. There is no argument against running the ball.

Last night when we were poised to start the drive that would win us the game with 6 and half minutes to go....what happened folks? 3 consecutive throws that gave us the 3 and out and promptly ended the season.

I definitely see us addressing more help at RB and bringing in someone at LG. But the coaching staff needs to address the run game approach.

I agree coaching staff needs to commit to the running game a lot more. But run blocking has to be reliable in order to do that.

It's hard to commit to the run when you hardly get 2y a carry. I know stat is way better than 2y/carry BUT it hasn't been there on a consistent basis.

If the O Line blocked as Well in the running game as they did in the passing game we wouldn't have this discussion.

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[skinsfaninok]

Giants and Boys should be better this year. <br />
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I still think we win the east at 9-7 Dallas 7-9 NYG 8-8 PHI 5-11<br />
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STATS<br />
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Kirk 4100 YARDS 31 Tds 12 ints<br />
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Jones 840 yards 7 Tds <br />
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J Reed 88 Rec 1,030 yards 9 tds<br />
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DJAX 65 Rec 959 yds 7 tds<br />
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PG88- 74 Rec 831 yards 5 td<br />
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J Crowder 70 Rec 787 yds 6 td<br />
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RK 13 Sacks<br />
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P Smith 11 sacks <br />
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W Compton 110 tackles 2 int <br />
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JN24 - 6 Ints<br />
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Breeland - 7 ints<br />
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D hall - 4 Ints

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[skinsfaninok]

So I was wrong on winning the east and Dallas and NYG records. Still had us at 9 wins which we basically had.

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