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[MTK]

Ok $100 says they make the playoffs next year.

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Originally Posted by MTK

Ok $100 says they make the playoffs next year.

I said .... if i were a gambling man. Haha. You're trying hard to get me to stand by my gut feeling about this team going forward.
I honestly do not gamble, and I honestly hope I am dead wrong. FFB is about as close as I come to gambling, but that is fun as fuck so I feel like i am getting something in return for my money - win or lose.
I gambled one time on a Clippers vs Jazz game years ago when the Clippers were winning like 10 games a year. Utah had Malone and Stockton. No injuries. It was in Utah. I put about 100 or 200 dollars down because the spread was low and I was giving my friend advice. He did not even watch sports so he would say "hey what looks good"? He kept winning off of my advice. So anyway I bet on Utah to cover - maybe 8 points?- at home. Clippers smoked them. It was an inglorious start and finish to my gambling prowess.
Edit- 3/27/99 Clippers 103 Jazz 77. Clippers won 8 or 9 games. Utah was championship caliber. Lost by 26? Really? I still want my money back.

[MTK]

I don't gamble much either, but I feel pretty good about where we're headed in spite of a very disappointing finish to this year.

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Originally Posted by MTK

I don't gamble much either, but I feel pretty good about where we're headed in spite of a very disappointing finish to this year.

Wish i did,..... ill come around after some draft day kool aid.
I hate the fucking giants man. That was a dagger to my heart.

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I just need the Giants and Cowboys to lose. Early. Than I can start to maybe convince myself of a bright future. Convince myself KC is Captain Kirk again instead of Captain Jerk. I mean I have been singing his praises through thick and thin but that throw was ....
Lets just pray that it will make him think twice in the future but not to the point that he goes into a shell. Just do what you do but for christ sake always think about where you are at and the score and the down and distance, etc. i am having a tough time giving him the lack of experience pass this time.

[skinsfaninok]

No chance we win 5 games next year unless kirk is gone

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No chance we win 5 games next year unless kirk is gone

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What do you think Looking at our schedule and giving your best "way to early" guess? Obviously the schedule means nothing because so much can change between now and than. Than week to week. But i am curious where you are at...

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What do you think Looking at our schedule and giving your best "way to early" guess? Obviously the schedule means nothing because so much can change between now and than. Than week to week. But i am curious where you are at...

With this roster? I'm saying 8-8 but I believe we will upgrade on def and finish 10-6 next yr.

[Bangee7]

I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.

It depends how much you want to pin on coaching vs how much you want to put on McCloughan. On the defensive side, I saw us basically trot out all the same players but with Norman added. We can definitely put that on McCloughan - he didn't do enough. But Barry had basically the same talent from 2015 plus a very good CB, and yet the defense got so much worse. Our third down conversion rate was among the worst in league history.

I pin that on Barry.

McCloughan needs to come up with more defensive help, but Barry added no value this year. We could make improvements with a change at DC and be back in the playoffs. McCloughan can't rest on that, but Barry is the guy that deserves the most criticism.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It depends how much you want to pin on coaching vs how much you want to put on McCloughan. On the defensive side, I saw us basically trot out all the same players but with Norman added. We can definitely put that on McCloughan - he didn't do enough. But Barry had basically the same talent from 2015 plus a very good CB, and yet the defense got so much worse. Our third down conversion rate was among the worst in league history.

I pin that on Barry.

McCloughan needs to come up with more defensive help, but Barry added no value this year. We could make improvements with a change at DC and be back in the playoffs. McCloughan can't rest on that, but Barry is the guy that deserves the most criticism.

I think McCloughan was hoping for a healthy Junior Galette, who could've been a difference maker. And of course, Cravens not getting hurt like he did. With those guys in addition to adding Norman, McCloughan probably felt the defense couldn't be any worse than it was a year ago. But then, Galette misses the entire season (again), Cravens misses time, and Norman is about the only upgrade of talent. It was one of those things where I think McCloughan kind of gambled on hoping he could do just enough for the defense this season so that the team had a legit shot at the playoffs again this year, and he would look into solidifying the defense next year.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out like that. Partly blame injuries to key guys, but I put most of the blame on Barry. I think he's gone (I hope so), but I think McCloughan has his work cut out for him on the defense this coming season.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by metalskins

I think McCloughan was hoping for a healthy Junior Galette, who could've been a difference maker. And of course, Cravens not getting hurt like he did. With those guys in addition to adding Norman, McCloughan probably felt the defense couldn't be any worse than it was a year ago. But then, Galette misses the entire season (again), Cravens misses time, and Norman is about the only upgrade of talent. It was one of those things where I think McCloughan kind of gambled on hoping he could do just enough for the defense this season so that the team had a legit shot at the playoffs again this year, and he would look into solidifying the defense next year.

Unfortunately, it didn't work out like that. Partly blame injuries to key guys, but I put most of the blame on Barry. I think he's gone (I hope so), but I think McCloughan has his work cut out for him on the defense this coming season.

Pretty much how I see it, too.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.

Individual players got better, Crowder, CT , Moses , Foster , Kirk , Baker..

Overall we were about the same as a team...


ALSO how was Philly that much better? They were 7-9 both seasons... and have ZERO talent on offense...

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Bangee7

I asked this in another thread, but nobody answered it yet... can anyone name one area that got better this year than last?

Please convince me that our Front Office is making the right choices to improve this team.

I really don't feel any area improved, while a few (d-line, Kicking, our back 4) have regressed.

With the other 3 teams in our division showing definite improvement over last year & us just muddling along, tell me why you're so rosy on our future.

I'd really like to feel that we're about to spring forward, but I just don't see it.

-Overall offense yards/game: 17th in 2015, 3rd in 2016.

Passing yards/game: 11th in 2015, 2nd in 2016.

Rushing yards/game: 20th in 2015, 21st in 2016.


-Overall defense (yards allowed/game): 28th both in 2015 and 2016.

Passing D: 25th both in 2015 and 2016.

Rushing D: 26th in 2015, 24th in 2016.


Considering how little defense was addressed last offseason, it's safe to say this team improved tremendously in the areas that were addressed.

If this offseason is as efficient for the defensive side of the ball as last year's was for the offense... Watch out.

Not saying it will happen, but saying we didn't improve is delusional.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

-Overall offense yards/game: 17th in 2015, 3rd in 2016.

Passing yards/game: 11th in 2015, 2nd in 2016.

Rushing yards/game: 20th in 2015, 21st in 2016.


-Overall defense (yards allowed/game): 28th both in 2015 and 2016.

Passing D: 25th both in 2015 and 2016.

Rushing D: 26th in 2015, 24th in 2016.


Considering how little defense was addressed last offseason, it's safe to say this team improved tremendously in the areas that were addressed.

If this offseason is as efficient for the defensive side of the ball as last year's was for the offense... Watch out.

Not saying it will happen, but saying we didn't improve is delusional.

I'd say adding a 75M cornerback should have made more of a difference on defense. If you add a $75M corner, and he plays well (which he did), and you don't see any improvement in your defensive rankings while allowing the most 3rd down conversions in the NFL, then the defensive coaching staff is doing something wrong.

But yeah McCloughan needs to do more. I think he probably gets that.