Trouble in Redskins Park?

mredskins · 03-02-2017, 09:59 AM

Hopefully all this McC stuff is just BS but man as a long time suffering Skins fan he was a serious ray of hope in a black hole of despair. =(

Get better McC!

skinsfan69 · 03-02-2017, 10:14 AM

This is really sad. I'm getting the feeling that SM's days are limited with the Redskins. How does the teams GM get "sent home??" That does not sound good to me.

Alvin Walton · 03-02-2017, 10:15 AM

Red Zone hype....

Report: McCloughan no longer running Redskins

dej733 · 03-02-2017, 10:16 AM

Tweet from SM's wife

Jessica McCloughan‏ @JessicaMcCloug1
@MikeJonesWaPo Mike is correct, @Russellmania621 is not. Scot was not in anyway sent home from Redskins Park.

KI Skins Fan · 03-02-2017, 10:17 AM

I think the Redskins probably got as much out of Scot as they had hoped to get. Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen are smart men. They knew when they hired him that it was just a matter of time before he fell off the wagon. That's because nobody can cure himself. Perhaps they asked him to go through rehab before they hired him and he refused. Of course, I don't know that but that is what alcoholics often do

They hired him anyway so they could benefit from his knowledge and skills until he could no longer function. They kept their own team of scouts in place and Scot trained them in how to run a scouting organization. I have no doubt that the Redskins are much better in the player personnel department now, even without Scot.

I hope Scot is in rehab. I hope he gets better and can come back to work. If he doesn't come back, I hope he can live a happy and productive life no matter what he chooses to do for a living. I believe that Scot will leave a positive legacy with the Redskins by having taught them how to do player personnel the right way.

Schneed10 · 03-02-2017, 11:23 AM

I have a few staff members who I value extremely highly. If I found that one of them were relapsing into alcoholism I would definitely choose to be patient, get them the help they need, let them go on leave and try to get right.

I'd lean on my other staff in the meantime. I fully get what Allen is doing here.

At the same time, if my valued staff member relapsed again after I gave the good grace? Time for the axe.

This of course assumes that there's not some crazy power struggle in my office. Not sure if that's the case in Ashburn or what. But still, I get the patience. I'm not sure Bruce is being a poor manager here.

Schneed10 · 03-02-2017, 11:23 AM

That all said, it's still not good to be missing the star employee at a crucial time of the year. So fingers crossed for this draft.

mredskins · 03-02-2017, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

That all said, it's still not good to be missing the star employee at a crucial time of the year. So fingers crossed for this draft.

I know right!

Scott you had one job! One job!

metalskins · 03-02-2017, 11:54 AM

He probably did have a family member to pass, but he had been muzzled since the end of January.

It's just a horrible time for him to miss. Hopefully he's left the combine in good hands.

Schneed10 · 03-02-2017, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by metalskins

He probably did have a family member to pass, but he had been muzzled since the end of January.

It's just a horrible time for him to miss. Hopefully he's left the combine in good hands.

It's all about Gruden. He's in the room for the interviews. He should be the opinion they listen to. I do think he gets it and I trust him.

Doug Williams was a Super Bowl Winning QB, so I think he probably gets it. But Gruden's the one with the vision for what he wants the team to be.

Hopefully Allen's smart enough to lean on Jay.

SkinsGuru · 03-02-2017, 12:37 PM

for what its worth:

Source (CSN Mid Atlantic):

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One source with knowledge of the situation told CSN of the drama surrounding the Redskins general manager, "It's all bullsh**, he's not fired."

metalskins · 03-02-2017, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's all about Gruden. He's in the room for the interviews. He should be the opinion they listen to. I do think he gets it and I trust him.

Doug Williams was a Super Bowl Winning QB, so I think he probably gets it. But Gruden's the one with the vision for what he wants the team to be.

Hopefully Allen's smart enough to lean on Jay.

Yeah, ultimately, it's your head coach that needs to say this is a guy we want to draft or not. And I think there is a respect and trust between Jay and Scot. I just hope once McCloughan returns, everything will be back to "normal" and all the speculation will be behind us.

jamf · 03-02-2017, 11:43 AM

If Bruce is drafting, we are going to get Christian McCaffrey in the first round.

htownskinfan · 03-02-2017, 12:08 PM

If Scott is drinking again who could blame him? The dysfunction in Redskin park is enough to make Jesus,Gandhi,and Ted Nugent all become alcoholics

FRPLG · 03-02-2017, 01:18 PM

I think the PR issues have less to do with the PR problems and more to do with the likes of Snyder and Allen (and past FO big shots) being boobs about PR. They've hired well respected PR types who have then proceeded to proverbially s**t the bed consistently when infected by said boobery. When everything becomes about perception to the FO then everything they do looks like a PR stunt and most of the time is perceived poorly. I've finally given up...as long as DS owns this team the drama will never go away. He doesn't have it in him to be just operate normally. And I have been a long time DS apologist.

03-02-2017, 09:59 AM	#1
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,232	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? Hopefully all this McC stuff is just BS but man as a long time suffering Skins fan he was a serious ray of hope in a black hole of despair. =( Get better McC! __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

03-02-2017, 10:14 AM	#2
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? This is really sad. I'm getting the feeling that SM's days are limited with the Redskins. How does the teams GM get "sent home??" That does not sound good to me.

03-02-2017, 10:15 AM	#3
Alvin Walton Pro Bowl Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Holland, Michigan Posts: 5,741	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? Red Zone hype.... Report: McCloughan no longer running Redskins __________________ REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968

03-02-2017, 10:16 AM	#4
dej733 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 85	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? Tweet from SM's wife Jessica McCloughan‏ @JessicaMcCloug1 @MikeJonesWaPo Mike is correct, @Russellmania621 is not. Scot was not in anyway sent home from Redskins Park.

03-02-2017, 10:17 AM	#5
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? I think the Redskins probably got as much out of Scot as they had hoped to get. Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen are smart men. They knew when they hired him that it was just a matter of time before he fell off the wagon. That's because nobody can cure himself. Perhaps they asked him to go through rehab before they hired him and he refused. Of course, I don't know that but that is what alcoholics often do They hired him anyway so they could benefit from his knowledge and skills until he could no longer function. They kept their own team of scouts in place and Scot trained them in how to run a scouting organization. I have no doubt that the Redskins are much better in the player personnel department now, even without Scot. I hope Scot is in rehab. I hope he gets better and can come back to work. If he doesn't come back, I hope he can live a happy and productive life no matter what he chooses to do for a living. I believe that Scot will leave a positive legacy with the Redskins by having taught them how to do player personnel the right way. __________________ I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!

03-02-2017, 11:23 AM	#6
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? I have a few staff members who I value extremely highly. If I found that one of them were relapsing into alcoholism I would definitely choose to be patient, get them the help they need, let them go on leave and try to get right. I'd lean on my other staff in the meantime. I fully get what Allen is doing here. At the same time, if my valued staff member relapsed again after I gave the good grace? Time for the axe. This of course assumes that there's not some crazy power struggle in my office. Not sure if that's the case in Ashburn or what. But still, I get the patience. I'm not sure Bruce is being a poor manager here. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-02-2017, 11:23 AM	#7
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 46 Posts: 12,458	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? That all said, it's still not good to be missing the star employee at a crucial time of the year. So fingers crossed for this draft. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-02-2017, 11:54 AM	#9
metalskins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 1,464	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? He probably did have a family member to pass, but he had been muzzled since the end of January. It's just a horrible time for him to miss. Hopefully he's left the combine in good hands. __________________ Reserved for a witty signature.

03-02-2017, 11:43 AM	#13
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,427	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? If Bruce is drafting, we are going to get Christian McCaffrey in the first round.

03-02-2017, 12:08 PM	#14
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 64 Posts: 4,935	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? If Scott is drinking again who could blame him? The dysfunction in Redskin park is enough to make Jesus,Gandhi,and Ted Nugent all become alcoholics __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

03-02-2017, 01:18 PM	#15
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Trouble in Redskins Park? I think the PR issues have less to do with the PR problems and more to do with the likes of Snyder and Allen (and past FO big shots) being boobs about PR. They've hired well respected PR types who have then proceeded to proverbially s**t the bed consistently when infected by said boobery. When everything becomes about perception to the FO then everything they do looks like a PR stunt and most of the time is perceived poorly. I've finally given up...as long as DS owns this team the drama will never go away. He doesn't have it in him to be just operate normally. And I have been a long time DS apologist.

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