Trouble in Redskins Park?

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

His drinking lead to his firings before...this time it was absolutely not the reason. BUT as an organization they put someone on the radio to speculate it was.

Your right, we don't need him. We are better off...

prove that he wasn't drinking again

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

prove that he wasn't drinking again

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[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by mredskins

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Looks like he's got a big "heat-on"!!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

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Wow

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by MTK

Wow

exactly . . . that says a ton!!

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

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OMG! These two photos taken only about a year apart from each other. That kind of puts things in perspective a bit.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by metalskins

OMG! These two photos taken only about a year apart from each other. That kind of puts things in perspective a bit.

Yeah, that's not a guy just having a few pops on the weekend.

[HTTR]

Originally Posted by mredskins

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C'mon guys, no one really knows if he was drinking. Could be he went on a Twinkie binge and then overdid it in the steam room

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

prove that he wasn't drinking again

Just go back a read my post from the last couple pages...I never said he wasn't having drinks. I was saying his drinking was absolutely not the issue in Redskins park. The article clearly states from multiple people inside the Organization McC drinking was never an issue. If McC drinking was the issue, the article about McC "downfall" as a skins executive would absolutely be about his struggles, addiction, etc. There also would be evidence of issues or events cited. There isn't any.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Just go back a read my post from the last couple pages...I never said he wasn't having drinks. I was saying his drinking was absolutely not the issue in Redskins park. The article clearly states from multiple people inside the Organization McC drinking was never an issue. If McC drinking was the issue, the article about McC "downfall" as a skins executive would absolutely be about his struggles, addiction, etc. There also would be evidence of issues or events cited. There isn't any.

How on god's green earth do you know that?

There is no way any of us know his level of drinking. I bet his wife doesn't even really know.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mredskins

How on god's green earth do you know that?

There is no way any of us know his level of drinking. I bet his wife doesn't even really know.

You really not good at reading. good lord.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Just go back a read my post from the last couple pages...I never said he wasn't having drinks. I was saying his drinking was absolutely not the issue in Redskins park. The article clearly states from multiple people inside the Organization McC drinking was never an issue. If McC drinking was the issue, the article about McC "downfall" as a skins executive would absolutely be about his struggles, addiction, etc. There also would be evidence of issues or events cited. There isn't any.

i don't buy it . . . i look at the recent pics of him and he looks like a HUGE alcoholic . . . i've been around lots . . . the pics of him in his redskins gear the last couple of days is the looks of a man trying to dry up fro a 6 month bender . . . IMO, no question he has been drinking and very heavily . . . and if drinking was never and issue . . . why did he get fired twice for it already?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Just go back a read my post from the last couple pages...I never said he wasn't having drinks. I was saying his drinking was absolutely not the issue in Redskins park. The article clearly states from multiple people inside the Organization McC drinking was never an issue. If McC drinking was the issue, the article about McC "downfall" as a skins executive would absolutely be about his struggles, addiction, etc. There also would be evidence of issues or events cited. There isn't any.

The problem, of course, is whether the article is authoritative, or speculative. If authoritative, then you would be right. But it isn't. It's reporters culling sources and making an article out of it. We don't, and may never, know the full story, but to assume only wrong on one side, ie "drinking was never an issue", seems to imply a bias in the reporting to me. An alcoholic, just like any other addict will have days and weeks where his/her addiction overrides his/her ability to function at work.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The problem, of course, is whether the article is authoritative, or speculative. If authoritative, then you would be right. But it isn't. It's reporters culling sources and making an article out of it. We don't, and may never, know the full story, but to assume only wrong on one side, ie "drinking was never an issue", seems to imply a bias in the reporting to me. An alcoholic, just like any other addict will have days and weeks where his/her addiction overrides his/her ability to function at work.

Journalist who wrote it is a stand up, guy in the know. I didn't read it as speculative at all. Seems well sourced with clear events and examples of a power struggle between Bruce and McC.

The drinking issue is mention and vetted in the article. If there was more of a story there, we should have heard of this from other sources.

But other sources have clearly speculated on dysfunction within the org and NOT a drinking problem.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Just go back a read my post from the last couple pages...I never said he wasn't having drinks. I was saying his drinking was absolutely not the issue in Redskins park. The article clearly states from multiple people inside the Organization McC drinking was never an issue. If McC drinking was the issue, the article about McC "downfall" as a skins executive would absolutely be about his struggles, addiction, etc. There also would be evidence of issues or events cited. There isn't any.

All we have to go on is Cooley asking loaded questions. I'm with you Chico, this stinks of typical Redskins bullshit. As long as his drinking wasn't interfering with his job, I don't care. We don't have any indication it was. But we do have sources (I think people seem to forget credible outlets, aka ESPN/NFLN, do their proper vetting before releasing stories) saying Allen and McC can't coexist.