Around the NFL Off season thread 1.0

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Did the 49ers really have a choice? They weren’t going down the road the Skins just went down by playing the tag game. They had to pony up, this is how it works.

Actually yeah. They could have extended that contract prior to the trade. You have a choice in whether to make a bad contract or not. See Houston with Brock. See Seattle with Matt Flynn. See Baltimore with Joe Flacco. You do have an option to overpay for talent or lack there of. Jimmy is such an unknown, so it's even more foolish.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Actually yeah. They could have extended that contract prior to the trade. You have a choice in whether to make a bad contract or not. See Houston with Brock. See Seattle with Matt Flynn. See Baltimore with Joe Flacco. You do have an option to overpay for talent or lack there of. Jimmy is such an unknown, so it's even more foolish.

It would be different if the team was a QB away from knowing they can win a SB, that team is ass and needs a shit ton of talent, now it will be like the colts roster or ravens roster, QB and avg players all around him.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Actually yeah. They could have extended that contract prior to the trade. You have a choice in whether to make a bad contract or not. See Houston with Brock. See Seattle with Matt Flynn. See Baltimore with Joe Flacco. You do have an option to overpay for talent or lack there of. Jimmy is such an unknown, so it's even more foolish.

Maybe they tried? Maybe he wasn’t open to a deal prior to the trade?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

Did the 49ers really have a choice? They weren’t going down the road the Skins just went down by playing the tag game. They had to pony up, this is how it works.

It's how it works, yeah. Doesn't mean it's wise, though because the teams that make or win the SB are more often those with a "bargain" at QB.

Eagles - $15M combined on Wentz and Foles. Wentz gets them there as a high draft pick.

Patriots - Brady is paid under market value.

Seahawks - Russell Wilson was on his rookie deal when they won.

Ravens - Flacco was on his rookie deal at the time.

What you never see is middle of the road QBs paid top dollar taking their teams to the SB.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

It's how it works, yeah. Doesn't mean it's wise, though because the teams that make or win the SB are more often those with a "bargain" at QB.

Eagles - $15M combined on Wentz and Foles. Wentz gets them there as a high draft pick.

Patriots - Brady is paid under market value.

Seahawks - Russell Wilson was on his rookie deal when they won.

Ravens - Flacco was on his rookie deal at the time.

What you never see is middle of the road QBs paid top dollar taking their teams to the SB.

Don't forget AS with an average contract.

[Giantone]

Eli salary for 2018 $10,500,000



Bonus pro rated at another 6.500,000

[skinsfaninok]

This move makes BA look smarter IMO, he didn't cave to overpaying a Good not Great QB, and he goes out and gets a proven guy that has won playoff games, something KC and JG have not done yet, hell maybe never will. He also paid him less than those guys so that the team can go out and sign a few FA's that can come in and help now...

Remember SF also gave PG A fat contract of 50M last yr, and yes we missed him but he ain't worth that kind of money.

Bruce has done better than most think honestly.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

This move makes BA look smarter IMO, he didn't cave to overpaying a Good not Great QB, and he goes out and gets a proven guy that has won playoff games, something KC and JG have not done yet, hell maybe never will. He also paid him less than those guys so that the team can go out and sign a few FA's that can come in and help now...

Remember SF also gave PG A fat contract of 50M last yr, and yes we missed him but he ain't worth that kind of money.

Bruce has done better than most think honestly.

Bruce is as stupid as stupid gets. He lacks basic common sense. He had to give up valuable compensation for an already average to below average team for a QB that may not be as good. Plus he was too stupid to give Cousins 19 million a year after his 15 season. Lynch was thinking ahead and the 27 million that was paid to JG will be surpassed in a couple years. Lynch knows what he's doing, Bruce has no clue.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bruce is as stupid as stupid gets. He lacks basic common sense. He had to give up valuable compensation for an already average to below average team for a QB that may not be as good. Plus he was too stupid to give Cousins 19 million a year after his 15 season. Lynch was thinking ahead and the 27 million that was paid to JG will be surpassed in a couple years. Lynch knows what he's doing, Bruce has no clue.

Time will tell, I'm not a SF hater at all I'm js Lynch was a great player that doesn't mean he'll be a great GM. Elway looked great until Manning left

[Dan73]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Bruce is as stupid as stupid gets. He lacks basic common sense. He had to give up valuable compensation for an already average to below average team for a QB that may not be as good. Plus he was too stupid to give Cousins 19 million a year after his 15 season. Lynch was thinking ahead and the 27 million that was paid to JG will be surpassed in a couple years. Lynch knows what he's doing, Bruce has no clue.

Scot M did not see him as being worth that money. If the coaches and other football people tell you he is good but not great then you pay him what he is worth.

The league is headed for a correction in the QB market soon.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Dan73

Scot M did not see him as being worth that money. If the coaches and other football people tell you he is good but not great then you pay him what he is worth.

The league is headed for a correction in the QB market soon.

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I agree 100%. Franchising KC twice upped the QB market as an side consequence. I think the correction will come with KC's contract. Teams will reset the value for a top 10 qb around what he is paid.

[skinsfaninok]

They beat a good jAGS team and a missed FG by Tenn other than that they beat bad teams and a rams team with no starters... Not impressed

[CRedskinsRule]

On SF, the also have, before the deal, more than enough(113M) to pay that contract without being in cap hell.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

On SF, the also have, before the deal, more than enough(113M) to pay that contract without being in cap hell.

That's irrelevant. What it does is set the market rate sky high for mediocre QBs or ones that haven't proven themselves.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

That's irrelevant. What it does is set the market rate sky high for mediocre QBs or ones that haven't proven themselves.

It's relevant to whether or not SF can build a team around JGarr. It does screw with the market I agree, but my point was that SF didnt hurt their team by signing him to that deal. In fact they probably made AZ and Seattle's life a little more miserable, AZs if they want to battle for Cousins and Seattle because Russell Wilson's next contact will be Yuuge.