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Old 04-21-2018, 09:03 PM   #1
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

You can drop down Fitzpatrick and James all over the defense. I hope Swearinger and Monte start all 16. That wouldn't deter me at all from picking either of those 2 if available.

The closer I get to the draft the more I want Ward, Fitzpatrick, James, or a trade down to around 20 (give me Guice, Vea, or Payne there, in addition to 1st 3 if any magically fall that far).
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Old 04-21-2018, 09:11 PM   #2
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You can drop down Fitzpatrick and James all over the defense. I hope Swearinger and Monte start all 16. That wouldn't deter me at all from picking either of those 2 if available.

The closer I get to the draft the more I want Ward, Fitzpatrick, James, or a trade down to around 20 (give me Guice, Vea, or Payne there, in addition to 1st 3 if any magically fall that far).
I agree on both points. First, they play 5 DBs all the time.

Second, the Redskins have so many needs trading down makes sense. They need help at virtually every position. And with only 2 high picks they are not going to turn things around quickly.
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Old 04-21-2018, 11:00 PM   #3
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Who I want them to take: Daron Payne DL


My best guess on who they will take: Vea Vita DL


Most disappointed if they do take: Calvin Ridley WR
Can't lose with any of them. You line up Ridley with Richardson and co and you can have some fun again. Doctson is still a toss up in my mind and you need to give AS some nice big targets to throw to. Either DL is a quality pick and will be an instant starter. I am with you DL is top priority, but if they go Ridley, I won't have a meltdown. Face it, anyone of these three guys will be instant upgrade.
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Old 04-22-2018, 10:03 AM   #4
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Trading back is cool in theory but you have to find a willing partner to trade with and not trade yourself out of a player you actually want just for a pick. (2011 we traded down with JJ Watt on the board and ended up with Kerrigan and Jarvis freaking Jenkins
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Old 04-22-2018, 10:19 AM   #5
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I really don't disagree with you.

I wouldn't be upset if our talent evaluators drafted him based on their grade, not Cooley's at whatever pick matches their grade.

I have read about and totally agree with the idea that college production should be discounted somewhat and traits should be prioritized in assigning grades.

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Old 04-22-2018, 10:23 AM   #6
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I really don't disagree with you.

I wouldn't be upset if our talent evaluators drafted him based on their grade, not Cooley's at whatever pick matches their grade.

I have read about and totally agree with the idea that college production should be discounted somewhat and traits should be prioritized in assigning grades.

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Yeah, it is a crap shoot and my top 4 wish list is Guice, James. Fitzpatrick, or Payne
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Old 04-22-2018, 11:51 AM   #7
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

My feeling now is minkah Fitzpatrick is there it’s a no brainer. The Skins would probably reject all offers to move back and take Fitzpatrick. This is the guy they want
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:59 AM   #8
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My feeling now is minkah Fitzpatrick is there it’s a no brainer. The Skins would probably reject all offers to move back and take Fitzpatrick. This is the guy they want
You say this based on what information?
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Old 04-24-2018, 10:24 AM   #9
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You say this based on what information?
My brain is swelling from processing all the information from the last 3 months of draft prep...from the college football games...combine...the visits...the rumors...ive discerned the fact from fiction...even analyzed the experts....ive asked myself the questions: Mel Kipers hair real?...Bucky brooks, is that his legal name?..

Right now ive entered another stream of consciousness... Draft Jedi type thing.


One thing through this process has remained...Minkah Fitzpatrick draft stock from last year til right now has remained solid as the top 1 or 2 defensive graded player from most accounts. Fitzpatrick is the pick if there
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:58 PM   #10
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My brain is swelling from processing all the information from the last 3 months of draft prep...from the college football games...combine...the visits...the rumors...ive discerned the fact from fiction...even analyzed the experts....ive asked myself the questions: Mel Kipers hair real?...Bucky brooks, is that his legal name?..

Right now ive entered another stream of consciousness... Draft Jedi type thing.


One thing through this process has remained...Minkah Fitzpatrick draft stock from last year til right now has remained solid as the top 1 or 2 defensive graded player from most accounts. Fitzpatrick is the pick if there
This is great news. I love Fitzpatrick. I still can't believe he'd be there, but I never dreamt Allen would last til 17 last year either.
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

Just listened to Friday's Cooley show.

He broke down Ronald Johnson USC TH.

Said he is better than Guice and was a perfect fit for our scheme. He is a second round guy which would free up 13 for defense.

He also did breakdowns on Vea and Payne. He said they would instantly become the best run defender on the roster of drafted.

He doesn't like them at 13 because of lack of versatility. It's a really good listen. Goes into strengths and weaknesses.

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Old 04-23-2018, 10:54 AM   #12
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

Who I want them to take: trade down


My best guess on who they will take: no clue


Most disappointed if they do take: Da'ron Payne

players that I like at pick 13:

Lamar Jackson
Baker Mayfield
Denzel Ward
Derwin James
Josh Jackson
Jaire Alexander
Calvin Ridley
Maurice Hurst - my favorite player but 13 could be "too early" for him but he'll certainly be gone by the next pick
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:54 AM   #13
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

My Board. I put a spacer in there intentionally because I feel like there's a talent dropoff at that point. The hope would be one of those guys in the top 9 drop down to us. And if it's any of the QBs then trade down is really in play.

I want a very athletic player out of this first pick. Having it in the secondary would thrill me with James or Minkah. That'd be my first preference.

1) Saquon Barkley
2) Bradley Chubb
3) Quentin Nelson
4) Sam Darnold
5) Minkah Fitzpatrick
6) Josh Rosen
7) Derwin James
8) Roquan Smith
9) Tremaine Edmunds

10) Josh Allen
11) Denzel Ward
12) Vita Vea
13) Marcus Davenport
14) Baker Mayfield
15) Calvin Ridley
16) Josh Jackson
17) Da'Ron Payne
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:58 AM   #14
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

And I should note. Just because I have Calvin Ridley at 15 and Da'Ron Payne at 17 doesn't mean I'd take Ridley over Payne. I think the grades are close enough there that I'd break the tie and go for need.

So maybe I need to tier this a bit more, visually:

1) Saquon Barkley
2) Bradley Chubb
3) Quentin Nelson
4) Sam Darnold
5) Minkah Fitzpatrick
6) Josh Rosen
7) Derwin James
8) Roquan Smith
9) Tremaine Edmunds

10) Josh Allen
11) Denzel Ward

12) Vita Vea
13) Marcus Davenport

14) Baker Mayfield
15) Calvin Ridley
16) Josh Jackson
17) Da'Ron Payne
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:21 AM   #15
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

John Keim does another good write up. This one on Doug Williams, and a look at the draft management group.

Washington Redskins' Doug Williams has smooth transition into new role - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN
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