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Old 11-07-2018, 11:47 AM   #1
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Cooley's grades from his Offensive Film Breakdown of the week.

I want to highlight Nsekhe's, Geron Christian's and Tony Bergstrom's grades.
Granted they didn't play a great front 4, but I did think they played better than I/we expected: when we had 3 starting Olinemen out of the game I thought Alex Smith was going to get blasted on every pass play, but he still had quite a lot of time to throw the ball. Quite a lot of missed assignments in the run game though.

Point is... despite the injuries I'm trying not to throw the towel on a 5-3 season... Cooley even said he doesn't think it's going to be that dynamic of a difference from what this offense has been this year.

Alex Smith B

Adrian Peterson B

Geron Christian C+ (Cooley says if you take away 2 or 3 really bad plays, he played pretty well. I did think he looked way more confident than during pre season)

Ty Nsekhe A-

Tony Bergstrom C- (as a fill in guy he did OK)

Chase Roullier B+

Brandon Scherff C

Morgan Moses C- (obviously playing hurt)

Mo Harris B+

Josh Doctson C+

Paul Richardson C

Jordan Reed B

Vernon Davis B
I agree...I don't think all is lost. Im encouraged Mo Harris and A Smith seemed to make a connection on the field. While we need to continue to invest on a Guard and interior Oline depth....We need to find playmakers at WR and RB. This WR core isn't cutting it at all. Cooley said this at the beginning of the year as well. At RB, AP is a good find...Is he resign able? CT is always fucking hurt. Guice is coming off knee surgery....We need to add more pieces.

Nsekhe played great...the Rook played fine. Bergstrom sucked period.
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Old 11-08-2018, 02:20 AM   #2
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Cooley's grades from his Offensive Film Breakdown of the week.

I want to highlight Nsekhe's, Geron Christian's and Tony Bergstrom's grades.
Granted they didn't play a great front 4, but I did think they played better than I/we expected: when we had 3 starting Olinemen out of the game I thought Alex Smith was going to get blasted on every pass play, but he still had quite a lot of time to throw the ball. Quite a lot of missed assignments in the run game though.

Point is... despite the injuries I'm trying not to throw the towel on a 5-3 season... Cooley even said he doesn't think it's going to be that dynamic of a difference from what this offense has been this year.

Alex Smith B

Adrian Peterson B

Geron Christian C+ (Cooley says if you take away 2 or 3 really bad plays, he played pretty well. I did think he looked way more confident than during pre season)

Ty Nsekhe A-

Tony Bergstrom C- (as a fill in guy he did OK)

Chase Roullier B+

Brandon Scherff C

Morgan Moses C- (obviously playing hurt)

Mo Harris B+

Josh Doctson C+

Paul Richardson C

Jordan Reed B

Vernon Davis B
I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:04 AM   #3
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I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.
Good point.

The way I see it:

-The pick was a good throw, just a great play by the 2 DBs. Takes away potential points but doesn't significantly downgrade anybody.

-The 2 drops by Doctson were killers, I wanted his head on a spike after this... But Cooley upgraded him for his later catches and TD.

-The run game didn't get going because of a lot of missed assignments by an OL line up that had never practiced like that together, so maybe he didn't downgrade individual grades for it.

-I think he's going to be wayyy more harsh on the Defense. (EDIT: Just started listening to the Defensive Film Breakdown, he opened by saying he's not even sure he's going to say the grades... a lot of Ds, best one is a B to Matt Ioannidis)

-He doesn't give Fs, so he only gives a D when the guy played atrociously bad.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:31 AM   #4
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-The 2 drops by Doctson were killers, I wanted his head on a spike after this... But Cooley upgraded him for his later catches and TD.
A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.
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A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.
Cooley plays the nice guy, Doc sucked Sunday and he has all yr. He never gets separation and he drops passes.
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A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.
Does scoring a TD on a tough catch count? I guess not.
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A coach evaluating a player is going to consider how a player's performance impacted the game. Doctson's drops helped the Redskins to a 0-14 hole they are not equipped to dig their way out of. With his small sample he only caught the ball 3 out of his 6 targets and ended up with 30 measly yards, how that is a C+ is beyond crazy. So by Cooley's assessment Doctson played like an above average wide receiver Sunday. That makes no sense.
This is were his grades are misleading. In his system, C+ is not above average, I'd say it's slightly below: he has a % grading scale (that he explained in his first podcast episode) where 86% and above is an A, 85% to 76% is B, 75% to 66% is C, 65% to 51% is D, 50% and below is an F.

You expect your average WR to do his job/have a positive impact on more than 70% of the plays, don't you?

And again, I really don't think grades are the best part of his Film Breakdowns, the explanations are. Because he did say Doctson is not getting any separation and he went into details on why his drops were ugly and 100% on him.
So yeah, maybe a C is being too nice, but if you listen to the film breakdown, he's not trying to make you believe Doctson had a solid game.
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I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.


Cooleys word is gold around here. How dare you! Personally I think he was a much better player than analyst.
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Cooleys word is gold around here. How dare you! Personally I think he was a much better player than analyst.
He can be wrong but what I like is that he always gives details and examples of why he gave the grade. I honestly am way more interested in the explanations than the grades. I just posted them to highlight that we might not be as doomed as we think as far as the OL is concerned.

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I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.
He's grading individual performance. One can play well independently of the overall team performance.
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I don't get this. My question to Cooley would be the offense scored 14 points against a bad defense, yet he's giving everyone B's and C's. I don't get it.
That was my thought, since C is an average grade on an official grading scale the Redskin offense had a 2.6 GPA which is above average and equaled 14 points. So that would imply the average NFL team scores 10 points a game.
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That was my thought, since C is an average grade on an official grading scale the Redskin offense had a 2.6 GPA which is above average and equaled 14 points. So that would imply the average NFL team scores 10 points a game.
He must have graded them on a curve because our offense sucked nearly as bad as our defense did last week. Graded as a unit, the running game was an F - a complete failure. We were so bad as a team, that game should just be forgotten.
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He must have graded them on a curve because our offense sucked nearly as bad as our defense did last week. Graded as a unit, the running game was an F - a complete failure. We were so bad as a team, that game should just be forgotten.
Like I previously posted in other threads, if the running game stops, then what?
Hopefully (been waiting) Smith gets of his funk and finds his receivers, having a healthy Harris helps.
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i hope and expect that this game will light a fire under these guys. the team showed some fire calling out the refs and alex bounced up smiling after a huge hit. this could be just what we needed. if not for some momentum stopping drops and bad calls this game could have turned out much different. teams need momentum. we had ours taken away at ever turn. i still have faith!
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This game will be very close....if we win it'll be by a field goal or perhaps less..
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