Ron Rivera Thread

[sdskinsfan2001]

There will probably be quite a few guys gone. Everyone is all about discipline until actually having it enforced. Club Jay guys are going bye bye.

Bama Boys gotta be excited.

[calia]

I have to say, I am more optimistic about the direction we're headed than I can recall for a long, long time. Since Gibbs 2.0 (even RGIII's rookie year made me think that it was too good to be true, and it was). Rivera will set a real tone. I just hope that he can get a good GM that he can work with. I understand the desire to lock him in as quickly as possible which is why he was hired before a GM, but that is one hiccup over the course of the last week or so.

Mostly, I am glad that Snyder shit-canned Allen. I said that he had 24 hours to do that after the season ended, or I was done for good. And quite remarkably, he did.

[calia]

I would add that in his introductory remarks, Snyder said that the Redskins needed a culture shift. That was a complete (if unintended) rebuke of Allen's stupid "damn good culture" gaffe.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by calia

I would add that in his introductory remarks, Snyder said that the Redskins needed a culture shift. That was a complete (if unintended) rebuke of Allen's stupid "damn good culture" gaffe.

Agreed, it stroke me as the best form of self awareness and awakening we could hope for coming for him !

[Schneed10]

To me, this was the most eyebrow raising and hope-inducing thing I read today:

Rivera said there was no reason to wait. He said he had pointed discussions with Snyder about his ownership tenure. Rivera said they went through every aspect of the organization.

"That's what I was really impressed with. He was willing to sit there and go through it piece by piece, and we truly did," Rivera said. "We talked an awful lot about those things. We talked about the things that he's learned, and he's grown as a person and as an owner. It was a very frank conversation. He was very honest, very upfront and very candid."

And those close to him say seeing Snyder get emotional about the franchise during their meetings helped win him over.

What Snyder has learned, how he has grown, candid, emotional. Dare it be seen as the quintessential Come To Jesus moment?

John Keim, great piece of writing as always.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-era-begins-dc

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

What Snyder has learned, how he has grown, candid, emotional. Dare it be seen as the quintessential Come To Jesus moment?

Don't do it Schneed! I don't want to believe Dan Snyder has come to Jesus until I see it with mine own eyes.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

To me, this was the most eyebrow raising and hope-inducing thing I read today:











What Snyder has learned, how he has grown, candid, emotional. Dare it be seen as the quintessential Come To Jesus moment?



John Keim, great piece of writing as always.



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-era-begins-dc

That article, and the in depth discussions DS and Joe Gibbs had with Rivera were definitely hope inspiring. Gibbs also told RR the key to success with Snyder, and I think it is dead on and what we have lacked.

After that meeting, Rivera met with Gibbs. The Hall of Fame coach gave Rivera this message: Snyder is passionate and will do what you ask, but you must be upfront with him and keep him in the loop.

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[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That article, and the in depth discussions DS and Joe Gibbs had with Rivera were definitely hope inspiring. Gibbs also told RR the key to success with Snyder, and I think it is dead on and what we have lacked.


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Keep him in the loop. Makes all the sense in the world. His whole life he was a Skins fan. He just wants to be part of it. To a fault for sure, so much that he has overreached, meddled, buddied up to players. So make your decisions, just let him feel a part of it.

Gibbs is the master at handling people.

He makes it sound so easy, Dan Snyder obviously isn’t easy. But this is very insightful, thanks for sharing.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

That article, and the in depth discussions DS and Joe Gibbs had with Rivera were definitely hope inspiring. Gibbs also told RR the key to success with Snyder, and I think it is dead on and what we have lacked.


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And like I mentioned a few days back, that is your outside group Snyder was working with. Both live in Charlotte it made sense for Snyder to arrange the meeting.

[5superbowls3wins]

The fact that Gibbs was as deeply involved in this as we’re all learning, and the fact that Gibbs told him to get Rivera is all I need to hear.

In Gibbs We Trust.


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[sdskinsfan2001]

Maybe I'm an idiot but I'm gonna roll with Dan on this one. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he's finally getting it. Give me the king size koolaid cup.

[CRedskinsRule]

I want to say one more time how blown away I am that none of this leaked out.

35 hours at Dan Snyders house over the 3 weeks leading to BA's firing.
Discussions between Rivera and Gibbs.
Family pasta nights!

And then Schaefer leaks his own non-dismissal.

We had a rat in BA and any rats that are left need to be trapped and released into the wildernes. I AM NOT definitively calling Schaefer a BA rat but his move was pretty cheesy.



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[skinsfan69]

Snyder actually spoke. You could see how nervous he was...lol

I like that Gibbs was involved simply because Dan respects him so much. It's the honeymoon phase so everyone's happy right now. But it was so good to hear this guy talk, he commands the freakin' room. These guys will get this defense better. Very confident in that. But he isn't a miracle worker. The last game he coached his defense looked like they quit on the guy if you ask me. My only concern is will he be too old school? Especially when it comes to the offense...

[Warthog]

I believe that after 20 years of failure Dan Snyder finally got it right. He set up a secret group of NFL guru’s (who are not with the Redskins) and have them analyze the franchise over a month before Black Monday. Snyder talked to Gibbs (and probably his secret team) who recommended Rivera. Then Snyder called RR and begin to sell himself and this team. Snyder made Rivera care about correcting this failed franchise. Dan proved to RR that he desperately cares about the ‘skins and that he would make whatever changes were necessary - including changing himself!!

It is clear to me that RR also talked to Snyder frankly about Dan’s many failures as an owner - such as by meddling directly in football decisions or using his toady, Bruce Allen, to do it for him on the sly. Snyder also probably had to admit to his micromanagement concerning player issues or using his VP/GM (Cerrato/Allen) to make many franchise decisions outside their scope of control.

I give Snyder credit for discussing these issues frankly with RR and admitting to his MANY MISTAKES. It’s tough to acknowledge one’s large errors in front of a potential employee.

Look where this team is compared to our competition. We’ve moved quite fast, but with deliberation, and secured one of the best HC out of the group of candidates!! I remember reading an article on the NFL HC search about 3 weeks ago, which asserted that because the Redskins were one of the WORST teams and had the WEAKEST management (out of the eight or nine teams without a coach) that we’d ONLY secure our HC by taking someone from inside the team’s management. Inbreeding. How wrong the author was about Snyder and this team. He moved quickly with his advisors, fixed on his target HC, schmoozed him, acknowledged his past mistakes to RR, promised not to repeat these errors, hired RR, and stood out of the way as Rivera began to build his staff, gather the best coaches, while getting rid of the old dead wood coaches.

Finally, I liked that Dan started the press conference, even though he is clearly very nervous as a public speaker. Even though he is disliked by the fans and media. That takes guts to be on live tv! He said that the franchise starts and ends with Rivera. Also, he boldly stated that Rivera is in charge of building a WINNING CULTURE!

This is what many of us wanted. It’s time to believe again! Although I still think we’ll be average next year, we will build a winning culture and we could go far. This team is finally making the right moves. I never thought I ever say this but, “well done Dan Snyder!”


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[WCommandersfan99]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I believe that after 20 years of failure Dan Snyder finally got it right. He set up a secret group of NFL guru’s (who are not with the Redskins) and have them analyze the franchise over a month before Black Monday. Snyder talked to Gibbs (and probably his secret team) who recommended Rivera. Then Snyder called RR and begin to sell himself and this team. Snyder made Rivera care about correcting this failed franchise. Dan proved to RR that he desperately cares about the ‘skins and that he would make whatever changes were necessary - including changing himself!!

It is clear to me that RR also talked to Snyder frankly about Dan’s many failures as an owner - such as by meddling directly in football decisions or using his toady, Bruce Allen, to do it for him on the sly. Snyder also probably had to admit to his micromanagement concerning player issues or using his VP/GM (Cerrato/Allen) to make many franchise decisions outside their scope of control.

I give Snyder credit for discussing these issues frankly with RR and admitting to his MANY MISTAKES. It’s tough to acknowledge one’s large errors in front of a potential employee.

Look where this team is compared to our competition. We’ve moved quite fast, but with deliberation, and secured one of the best HC out of the group of candidates!! I remember reading an article on the NFL HC search about 3 weeks ago, which asserted that because the Redskins were one of the WORST teams and had the WEAKEST management (out of the eight or nine teams without a coach) that we’d ONLY secure our HC by taking someone from inside the team’s management. Inbreeding. How wrong the author was about Snyder and this team. He moved quickly with his advisors, fixed on his target HC, schmoozed him, acknowledged his past mistakes to RR, promised not to repeat these errors, hired RR, and stood out of the way as Rivera began to build his staff, gather the best coaches, while getting rid of the old dead wood coaches.

Finally, I liked that Dan started the press conference, even though he is clearly very nervous as a public speaker. Even though he is disliked by the fans and media. That takes guts to be on live tv! He said that the franchise starts and ends with Rivera. Also, he boldly stated that Rivera is in charge of building a WINNING CULTURE!

This is what many of us wanted. It’s time to believe again! Although I still think we’ll be average next year, we will build a winning culture and we could go far. This team is finally making the right moves. I never thought I ever say this but, “well done Dan Snyder!”


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Great post! Snyder did impress me reaching out to the outside panel to fix this trainwreck. Landing Rivera and Del Rio is no joke at all. Very excited about the prospects. Want to know what's going to happen with o coordinator, gm, and other vacancies. Team desperately needs a marketing coordinator of some type also with all the recent issues. Pleased with the offseason thus far though.