My 1st anti-coaching thread

[Bushead]

Wow, same record as Steve? Now that is pathetic...

Acutally Gibbs and Steve have some things in common, they both start out very quickly. Didn't Spurrier have a 3 -1 start, and the one loss was very close to a win?

[skinsguy]

Yep, a new coaching staff every season is definitely the key to success.

[Redskin]

maybe its the coaching staff keeping us close and we dont have great talent you ever think of that paintrain?

[Twilbert07]

We all know what we really need: a new owner.

And that ain't gonna happen. I know Snyder is a big fan, but he really has screwed up this team with all his coaching changes and by meddling in personnel decisions. I know he's been more hands-off lately, but his actions during the first years as owner will take several years to undo.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

We all know what we really need: a new owner.

And that ain't gonna happen. I know Snyder is a big fan, but he really has screwed up this team with all his coaching changes and by meddling in personnel decisions. I know he's been more hands-off lately, but his actions during the first years as owner will take several years to undo.

Which is it then? You way that the team is screwed up with the coaching changes, but earlier you said it's time for a youth movement on the coaching staff

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Which is it then? You way that the team is screwed up with the coaching changes, but earlier you said it's time for a youth movement on the coaching staff

It's this way: I hated all the coaching changes during the past five or six years. Now we have a 65-year-old coach, who, even if he turns it around, will need to be replaced within a couple years. Let's hire someone in their 40s who will bring in a new enthusiasm. Living in Atlanta, I see the Falcons doing just that under Jim Mora, and they go to the playoffs while we go home.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

It's this way: I hated all the coaching changes during the past five or six years. Now we have a 65-year-old coach, who, even if he turns it around, will need to be replaced within a couple years. Let's hire someone in their 40s who will bring in a new enthusiasm. Living in Atlanta, I see the Falcons doing just that under Jim Mora, and they go to the playoffs while we go home.

Do you think it was a mistake for him to come back in the first place? Just curious

[Bushead]

Every March, who doesn't look at the Redskins and say "wow , they have a bunch of talent! " I mean remeber the linebackers core of Trotter, Armstead, and Arrington. The Redskins have Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Jansen , Samuels, Thomas, Sean Taylor, Washington, Lavar. I mean the list goes on and on and on. I've heard numerous people over the years talk about each and everyone of them being a GREAT talent.

It just never translates to wins. You have to blame the coaches when that happens. What about the Chicago Bears? Their defense is taking them to the playoffs, unlike the redskins last year.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Bushead

Every March, who doesn't look at the Redskins and say "wow , they have a bunch of talent! " I mean remeber the linebackers core of Trotter, Armstead, and Arrington. The Redskins have Clinton Portis, Santana Moss, Jansen , Samuels, Thomas, Sean Taylor, Washington, Lavar. I mean the list goes on and on and on. I've heard numerous people over the years talk about each and everyone of them being a GREAT talent.

It just never translates to wins. You have to blame the coaches when that happens. What about the Chicago Bears? Their defense is taking them to the playoffs, unlike the redskins last year.

I've tried to understand why all those big names never give us wins, too. Either they're not coached right, or they're just not that good. I know some may disagree and cringe at that remark, but what have they done for us?

Portis is overrated. Santana Moss can't do it all by himself. Sean Taylor is still young, at times too aggressive, and isn't a complete player yet. Marcus Washington is a legitimate star, but like Moss, one star player can't do it alone. LaVar Arrington has a big hit every game or so, but it's never enough.

I think it all starts with both lines. Thomas, Rabach, and Dockery are not dominant interior players. Samuels struggles against top notch defenders, and is otherwise just good enough, but he's no Jim Lachey. Jansen is solid, and he is simply the best player lined up with players who are not as good.

The defensive line is terrible, and will be that way as long as this team continues to neglect it.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I think it all starts with both lines. Thomas, Rabach, and Dockery are not dominant interior players. Samuels struggles against top notch defenders, and is otherwise just good enough, but he's no Jim Lachey. Jansen is solid, and he is simply the best player lined up with players who are not as good.

The defensive line is terrible, and will be that way as long as this team continues to neglect it.

The world is coming to an end, I actually agree with you, Beemnseven. Both lines are missing that extra ingredient for success - with the defensive line being further away from turning it around.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

The world is coming to an end, I actually agree with you, Beemnseven. Both lines are missing that extra ingredient for success - with the defensive line being further away from turning it around.

I thought this was the year for the offensive line to finally come together. Chris Samuels, an up-and-coming Derrick Dockery, a solid right guard in Randy Thomas alongside Jon Jansen, with the best available center in the free agent market in Casey Rabach -- all blocking for Clinton Portis? I was practically drooling after hearing that lineup.

But it just hasn't happened. Rabach was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle. Portis was supposed to be making plays like L.T. is making. Gibbs and Bugel were supposed to resurrect the Hogs and call the plays that pound opponents into submission. Nope. It just ain't happenin'.

The D-line on the other hand, well ... let's just say I saw this coming.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I thought this was the year for the offensive line to finally come together. Chris Samuels, an up-and-coming Derrick Dockery, a solid right guard in Randy Thomas alongside Jon Jansen, with the best available center in the free agent market in Casey Rabach -- all blocking for Clinton Portis? I was practically drooling after hearing that lineup.

But it just hasn't happened. Rabach was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle. Portis was supposed to be making plays like L.T. is making. Gibbs and Bugel were supposed to resurrect the Hogs and call the plays that pound opponents into submission. Nope. It just ain't happenin'.

The D-line on the other hand, well ... let's just say I saw this coming.

If we get another wideout, I think a lot of the questions about our offense will disappear.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I thought this was the year for the offensive line to finally come together. Chris Samuels, an up-and-coming Derrick Dockery, a solid right guard in Randy Thomas alongside Jon Jansen, with the best available center in the free agent market in Casey Rabach -- all blocking for Clinton Portis? I was practically drooling after hearing that lineup.

But it just hasn't happened. Rabach was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle. Portis was supposed to be making plays like L.T. is making. Gibbs and Bugel were supposed to resurrect the Hogs and call the plays that pound opponents into submission. Nope. It just ain't happenin'.

The D-line on the other hand, well ... let's just say I saw this coming.

I do see more improvement with our offensive line as opposed to last year. I do believe Jansen being out last year really hurt us. However, our offensive line is definitely not the OL like the hogs were. That was a special group! Some games they're perfect, other games they're not. But most definitely, our defensive line needs improvement. The only guy I really like is Griffin.

[davy]

I thought this site was for knowledgeable fans not for bad losers.

[Twilbert07]

If you're referring to my post, I've watched every game since 1972 and have seen too much of the same over the past 10 years. How would you describe going 2-6 in the past eight games?