Skins getting heat again over name issue

[davy]

Okay, so we change the name - Redskins to Red Tails.

Next the fight song will be outlawed - Braves on the warpath? Racist overtones.

Then websites with any native american references - Warpath to Flight Path?


Personally, I will always refer to the team as the Redskins whatever happens.

[Z King]

If they MUST change it, how do you feel about "Buckskins" ? - that way its possible to preserve the nickname 'Skins.. and the 'Skins-Cowboy's rivalry?

[Z King]

Here's a possible solution for adapting the "Fight Song" - What d'you think? I think its serviceable/okay:

Hail to the Redtails (or Buckskins)!
Hail Victory!
March to the End Zone!
Fight for old D.C.!
Run or pass and score—We want a lot more!
Beat 'em, Swamp 'em,
Touchdown! -- Let the points soar!
Fight on, fight on 'Til you have won
Sons of Wash-ing-ton. Rah!, Rah!, Rah!
Hail to the Redtails!
Hail Victory!
March to the End Zone!
Fight for old D.C.!

[KI Skins Fan]

Things change. The society is changing rapidly right now. The team name will change with it. You know, The March of Time, etc. There isn't a thing anybody on this board can do to stop it. Nor can Dan Snyder. It was inevitable. So relax and get over the name thing.

The name change is no longer in dispute because Dan Snyder can't afford to lose a fortune by rejecting his major sponsors' "requests" that he change the team name, "or else". Right now, Snyder is simply going through some face-saving busy work routine before announcing the name change and rebranding that he already made plans for years ago.

[skinsfan69]

I will never ever ever wear anything other then my REDSKINS gear. I am not going to follow this fake ass movement that is going on. A bunch of pandering (mostly white) people who really don't give two shits about native americans. I just can't get behind it cause it's empty. It's fake. It's weak as hell. I will never call this team the Washington Warriors. Ever.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I will never ever ever wear anything other then my REDSKINS gear. I am not going to follow this fake ass movement that is going on. A bunch of pandering (mostly white) people who really don't give two shits about native americans. I just can't get behind it cause it's empty. It's fake. It's weak as hell. I will never call this team the Washington Warriors. Ever.

This....I’m loading up on skins gear

[rocnrik]

It’s all political anyways ... I will always remember the Redskins and the joy and frustration they gave me ! Hopeful that the Native American tradition will continue with a few tweaks .. I kinda like the Warpath as a team nickname .. Washington Warpath !! I just hope it’s not some watered down name like the federals or monuments or something with different colors .. the feather on the helmet with a W would be nice .. if the teams retains the Native American theme I think most are on board ..

[Warthog]

I think this is an issue that is just going to happen. Dan Snyder is facing the loss of hundreds of MILLIONS of dollars if he doesn’t move. Things do change and this is a done deal - New Team Name

When Snyder makes the change a lot of positive things happen:

1. Some fans come back who stayed away from the team.
2. Hundreds of millions flows back to the team.
3. New name may mean new uniforms, etc.,
Which is more money to the team (although NFL Labeled stuff go into the pool shared by all teams).
4. Snyder can say this is the NEW START for his team after 20 years of mediocrity.
5. He can get the D.C. politicians behind his move to build a new stadium where RFK STADIUM stood.


If Snyder is going on the Native American route then it will depend on couple of things:

A. The tribe has to agree to using their name. They might get paid for it.
B. This may sound stupid but he may go for a tribe name with TWO SYLLABLES. That way it fits into the teams fight song.
C. I would think he would go with a team with a warrior culture. Some tribes were basically peaceful (Navaho). WARRIOR CULTURE
D. A FAMOUS TRIBE that has name recognition. There are HUNDREDS OF TRIBES in America, many of them small. I think he would go for a FAMOUS, PLAINS INDIAN TRIBE that has two syllables, and will allow use of their name:

CHEYENNE


I can’t think of any more teams with all the criteria. Warrior culture tribes like APACHE (3 syllables), SIOUX (one syllable), COMMANCHE (3 syllables) don’t fit. Of course, he could just change the fight song, but it appears that Snyder is going for tradition (keeping our famous fight song intact).

I may be making too much of a tribe that fits the fight song, but if there are hundreds of Native American tribes to choose from, why not pick one where it causes the least changes? I think that is what Snyder is going for.

FAMOUS TRIBE
WARRIOR CULTURE
TWO SYLLABLES (fits fight song)
TRIBE WILLING TO Let the Team Use Their Name

CHEYENNE

Can anyone think of another famous tribe, with a warrior culture, that is two syllables?


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[Warthog]

On the same theme he could go with

MOHAWK - an EASTERN tribe, warrior culture, well known (a tribe used in the famous American novel and movie, “Last of the Mohicans”)
AND - no need to change the fight song or most of the team gear. They may change the Native American profile on the helmet back to the ARROW profile.

My best guess now:

MOHAWK
CHEYENNE

It will be MOHAWK if the tribe agrees to it. They would get paid to use the name and it would bring positive light on the tribe.


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[OmahaRedskins]

Better order your gear now before it is turned off.


https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Redskins&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

https://www.nflshop.com/washington-redskins/jerseys/t-36938381+d-6715004568+z-98-3585822992?ab={wt-static_graphic}{pt-TLP}{al-Aspot}{ct-Washington_Redskins_Jerseys}

https://store.redskins.com/

[skinsfaninok]

I just got a pair of swimtrunks and was thinking, thats probably the last Redskins item I ever buy... Kinda sad tbh.

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[BaltimoreSkins]

I don't think there is a single group of owners that wouldn't be able to wait a year or two out. If not there are plenty of billionaires that would want to get into the NFL if an owner had to sell. I think football is too important to U.S. to not have professional football.

[Chico23231]

There hasn’t been a better time for a name change and I think Snyder could be inline to make a lotta money from in multiple ways. I’m just ready for the new season.

[MTK]

It’s simple economics, there’s too much TV money on the table to fold up shop. The NFL will press forward.

[Chico23231]

I wonder if this will evolve into the intellectual dishonest discussion now if you wear redskins items...or say redskins then you are a racist? I gotta feeling it will

Then I’ll ask fans if you pull that garbage bullshit, how in the fuck were u ever a fan of the redskins in the first place?