WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[TheGuyFromOverThere]

Originally Posted by Scalper

Or even 3 1st rounders and nothing else. Would you trade Allen, Payne, Sweat for Watson? So he can whine for a trade 9 months later? No way. The big problem with Watson is no character no loyalty. You sign a $150M deal, you owe the team some loyalty, as they have made long-term investment. It is obscene to sign a deal so large and then demand trade less than a year into it. You have doubts about organization, better consider that BEFORE signing new deal period. Favre was right.

But basically, most posters advocate absurd bounties for good but not great players, and think we can attain solid players for almost nothing. And it doesn't matter, Watson isn't being traded. Houston ownership will let him sit and fine him into bankruptcy, just on principle.

Not THE DAN, Cerrato. LOL. Cerrato after being hit in the head with a baseball bat 15 times.

Chase Young is a generational talent at the 2nd most important position in football. Burrow is a solid but not great QB. Bengals should have drafted Young. You don't trade Young under any circumstances. EVER. Anyone suggesting so is a Cerrato, plain and simple. Young is a potential HOF player barring major injuries, the best player on team hands down, in 1st season, has everything you want, heart, talent, passion, character, on and off field. He is the type of guy you build a SB contender around.

What those 4 1st round picks should get you, in successive years, is a franchise LT, franchise shutdown CB, franchise LB, and franchise FS or WR or QB. Imagine looking up in 4 years and having Young, a Pro Bowl LB and CB, and a true franchise LT.

Can the Homers please stop it with Watson? He isn't getting traded, other teams with higher picks and multiple higher picks can offer more, and what it would take is much more than we should pay. Also, Watson controls where he would go if traded, and would certainly go to a team on the verge of contending, rather than one of laughing stock franchises in NFL, us. We have NO elite players on O except a freaking RG who can't stay healthy. There are teams loaded with talent who can offer Watson far better situation, and no player or agent honestly believes THE DAN can go 4-5 years without reverting to his historical baseline behavior of meddling, backstabbing, etc.

We have to draft our own franchise QB. Period. That is the only way you get one, with exceedingly rare exceptions, none of which are relevant in this year's QB market.

What is so hard to understand about all this?

I agree with about everything you wrote except for the loyalty part. Teams trade and cut and force to restructre contracts at will and for 99% of players "past accomplishments" do not account to anything resembling job security. So, if teams 99 times out of 100 do not show a shred of loyalty, why should players do?

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by TheGuyFromOverThere

I agree with about everything you wrote except for the loyalty part. Teams trade and cut and force to restructre contracts at will and for 99% of players "past accomplishments" do not account to anything resembling job security. So, if teams 99 times out of 100 do not show a shred of loyalty, why should players do?

This.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by TheGuyFromOverThere

I agree with about everything you wrote except for the loyalty part. Teams trade and cut and force to restructre contracts at will and for 99% of players "past accomplishments" do not account to anything resembling job security. So, if teams 99 times out of 100 do not show a shred of loyalty, why should players do?

This times two

[skinsfaninok]

He is but still lol

[BaltimoreSkins]

Completely understandable. I just see a glass ceiling without a QB, but building in the draft and finding a guy works too if you find him.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Completely understandable. I just see a glass ceiling without a QB, but building in the draft and finding a guy works too if you find him.

Yeah I get the if part for sure. My biggest problem is if you trade 3 #1s for Watson and he gets Smithed/Theismanned on the first play of the season...where are you then?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Yeah I get the if part for sure. My biggest problem is if you trade 3 #1s for Watson and he gets Smithed/Theismanned on the first play of the season...where are you then?

Sorry but that is a silly argument and that can happen with anyone. Injuries are part of the game, and that should not stop you from getting a young elite QB that will likely make your team into a playoff team.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Sorry but that is a silly argument and that can happen with anyone. Injuries are part of the game, and that should not stop you from getting a young elite QB that will likely make your team into a playoff team.

It’s not a silly argument. It’s one of the reasons you don’t make trades like that. It’s BECAUSE it can happen to anyone on any play.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

It’s not a silly argument. It’s one of the reasons you don’t make trades like that. It’s BECAUSE it can happen to anyone on any play.

Yes, but if Watson gets hurt, he's not going to be hurt for three years.

And I agree that it is a lot to give up, but if you are a team like Washington, which has a lot of pieces in place, and will have a lot of key talented players on rookie or inexpensive contracts, you can afford a trade like this.

Every potential move you make, whether it is drafting or acquiring a FA, has some degree of risk.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

It’s not a silly argument. It’s one of the reasons you don’t make trades like that. It’s BECAUSE it can happen to anyone on any play.

I agree it’s not silly at all .. look at it like this , if we had a top five pick and we selected say Fields and he got hurt and could not play for several seasons .. we would be out of one pick for that time .. if we give up 2 number ones and a second and starting player for a QB and same thing happens what are we out of ? Best not to trade away too much or as some say put all your eggs in one basket ... there is a huge difference ..

[mredskins]

I honestly probably do a 1st a 2nd and CY for Watson.

Watson would have a bigger impact then CY on this franchise.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I honestly probably do a 1st a 2nd and CY for Watson.

Watson would have a bigger impact then CY on this franchise.

yeah except you'd need to add a lot more to that offer

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

yeah except you'd need to add a lot more to that offer

The new chicken sandwich at Taco Bell?

[skinsfaninok]

From NFL Now: #Raiders QB Marcus Mariota has generated a lot of interest from teams, but the max value of his contract has been an issue for teams. Trade talk has slowed considerably. Could he be eventually released?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

From NFL Now: #Raiders QB Marcus Mariota has generated a lot of interest from teams, but the max value of his contract has been an issue for teams. Trade talk has slowed considerably. Could he be eventually released?

That's my bet. LV can't afford him, and teams aren't going to pay him $22m plus trade assets for him. It would be better for him if he was released, better for the Raiders (cap wise), and better for the team that eventually signs him in free agency.