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View Poll Results: Grade WFT's free agency haul so far (Fitz, Samuel, Jackson)
A 28 48.28%
B 26 44.83%
C 3 5.17%
D 1 1.72%
F 0 0%
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Old 03-17-2021, 09:08 PM   #1
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Stupid busy day at work. What a great piece of news to come home to. Fuck yeah. If Harmon comes back healthy, I really like our WR group now.

Next up, a TE, even if it's just a standard number 2 guy.

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Old 03-17-2021, 09:15 PM   #2
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Psyched with the Samuels signing ....

Does anyone know where that puts our remaining salary cap number?
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Old 03-17-2021, 09:20 PM   #3
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As a general rule I try not to get hyped in March...

but I'm hyped on this one! Yes we still are missing the long term solution at qb, but I'm super hyped for Curtis Samuel.

Fun fact: Terry Mac and Curtis Samuel were roommates in college. Looooove this move.
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Ok you guys got me. Should we start counting all the players from the 31 other teams too?
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Old 03-17-2021, 10:16 PM   #5
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Ok you guys got me. Should we start counting all the players from the 31 other teams too?
Lol. To be fair to your point, I wouldn't call what Davis did for us last year playing anyways.
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Old 03-17-2021, 10:56 PM   #6
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Ok you guys got me. Should we start counting all the players from the 31 other teams too?
I was just giving you grief. I agree with your main point 100%

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Old 03-17-2021, 11:06 PM   #7
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Old 03-17-2021, 11:49 PM   #8
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Day Two FA

Samuel Signing - B
He is McL 2.0. The question is whether you should have two smurfs as 1 and 2 WRs in today's NFL. It is an interesting question. More conventional wisdom, which is not always correct, says you need a tall, big, fast #1 WR. The only true #1 WRs in FA were both franchised. Not signing Golladay was right move, both because his price was punitive, and because he is really a #1.5 WR, a better version of but still similar to 3 guys we already have on our roster, namely Sims, Golden, Harmon. Bringing in a 4th WR similar to 3 guys we already have, long strider bigger possesion WRs without elite quickness, probably doesn't make sense even if price was right. There isn't a true #1 franchise WR, so what do you do? Sign another smurf burner I guess. I can't fault the approach, even though I'm not sure what the outcome will be.

$11M is no bargain for a solid second-tier receiver, but neither is it drastic overpay. Samuel has not been consistently good, his early career was a suckfest, and you wonder if, as with many college draft picks, if one great year an anomaly. Trust that RR knows what he is doing as he knows the player. This is not some top-tier player, nor a massive bargain, but it is a solid signing, a B.

A few other interesting observations. Our two main signings were young players in their prime, which I like, especially when contrasted as abysmal signings of past.

Lot of 3 year deals out there. Players expecting influx of new TV deal money? Regardless, one consequence is that we can draft a CB or WR high in draft this year or next, and about the time their contracts expire, Samuel and Jackson's expire too. Smart planning? Let's be optimistic and say yes. The downside is you haven't locked them in long term, but this downside more than offset by risk mitigation if players don't perform or younger replacements exist. FO is clearly and smartly avoiding the anchor of shit contracts like Smith, Collins, etc., moving forward, give them credit for that.

So we now have 2 legit burners, and best case scenario is we should be able to punish teams deep, assuming we have a QB to get them the ball. Neither Heinecke and Allen has great arm strength, and I can hear the Fitz chants already, but if we are going with more of a deep threat O, even at times, which I LOVE, we need a big armed QB. That is not Jones or many other QBs in draft.

So at WR in 3 sets you might expect, McL, Samuel slot, and Harmon/Golden/Sims on outside. It is hopefully not absurd to hope one of the three big guys becomes a viable #2, and perhaps use 2 of big guys in red zone or 3rd short situations. We now have 5 WRs that seem roster locks assuming no major ridiculousness, McL, Samuel, Harmon, Golden, Sims. Draft a 6th? Go with other Sims? Keep 5 WRs. I think they draft 1 more WR, just because an injury to McL or Samuel puts you right back where you started, and smaller WRs take a beating and Samuel has injury history. This means teams can no longer double McL all game without paying for it and should open up offense immensely.

We had to sign a WR, and a modest signing like this much better than breaking bank for guys that are not true #1s. We now have a #1.5WR in McL, a #1.5WR in Samuel, and 3 #2 or #2.5 in Golden, Harmon, Sims. That is respectable, but a true big and quick #1 would still be ideal. Maybe we draft that guy. Our WR unit went from a C or D to a B, but would need a true #1 to be ranked A. That being said, our offense should be exponentially better, and I still think we draft WR with one of first 5 picks.
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Old 03-17-2021, 11:59 PM   #9
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Lamar Miller

Lamar Miller - B+
Let's assume he's making league minimum or no more than $2M on one year deal, contract details not released. Yes, I'd rather draft a young player later in draft to fill this role, but going to take FO time to fill all such holes through draft. We still have lots of holes and stated intention of FO is to enter draft with no major holes so they aren't forced to draft for need. A smart approach.

Miller was a stud when younger. He has the straight-line speed to take it to the house, even assuming he's lost a step with age. He can catch. He has decent size. You could do a lot worse for a #3 RB. He's been proven to handle the load of starting, meaning if Gibson goes down, you don't have to wonder if some rookie can handle it or not. And if you draft a good young RB, you can cut him without hosing cap.

This is one of those smart signings, cheap and under the radar, that we made a half dozen of last year.
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Samuel last season

77 Rec on 93 Targets (83%)
11.1 YPR
Lined up in the slot 71% of the time but they also had Robby Anderson and DJ Moore

He's a threat in the run game as well with 41 attempts last yr for 200 Yards
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Sharpe was fine. He only played sparingly, maybe two starts... gave up one sack. Obviously he's depth and nothing more at this point. Pretty low risk signing that makes sense.

So far it's hard to not like what they are doing (and not doing) overall. It's really too early to be doling out grades for free agency moves. We don't have the whole picture yet after a whopping two days...
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Sharpe was fine. He only played sparingly, maybe two starts... gave up one sack. Obviously he's depth and nothing more at this point. Pretty low risk signing that makes sense.



So far it's hard to not like what they are doing (and not doing) overall. It's really too early to be doling out grades for free agency moves. We don't have the whole picture yet after a whopping two days...
This.

The team is making moves that clearly address needs and it looks like they have a good understanding of how the players they are signing match up with those needs. This is how a professional organization runs. Keep the goals in sight, balance needs of the team versus the constraints that the nfl and salary cap impose, and have a 2 to 3 year vision of getting and staying on top.

Add in a touch of RR koolaid for moves like letting Sundberg walk and its a good time to be a longtime fan of this team.

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