Fresh Start Political Thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

But it is exactly what the biggest nut bag trump supporters are clinging too. And you cozy right up to them. Get out while you can. Before the rapture!

Absolutely no one clings to it. Pu-lease

In term of Middle East country who oppose Israel right to exist, let me know when you want to sit down with the Koran and talk about what they “cling too.” The way they they govern and treat their own citizens in many of their country is the model I guess.

Also before I abide to SDskins of peace on Friday…let me leave a final thought:

Also, we all know the horsemen whipping Haitian was fake news…but now the photographer confirms it was never any whipping or whips

https://www.ktsm.com/local/el-paso-n...mpression=true

Thanks…peace, love & harmony…

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Absolutely no one clings to it. Pu-lease

In term of Middle East country who oppose Israel right to exist, let me know when you want to sit down with the Koran and talk about what they “cling too.” The way they they govern and treat their own citizens in many of their country is the model I guess.

Also before I abide to SDskins of peace on Friday…let me leave a final thought:

Also, we all know the horsemen whipping Haitian was fake news…but now the photographer confirms it was never any whipping or whips

https://www.ktsm.com/local/el-paso-n...mpression=true

Thanks…peace, love & harmony…

Israel is run by fuckin wing nuts, and yes Q-anon (huge trump base) cling to the end of times bullshit. Cant have peace love and harmony with wingnuts and conspiracy theorists in the world. And your guy embraces them because they kiss his ring. You cannot be part of the solution if you are part of the problem.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Israel is run by fuckin wing nuts, and yes Q-anon (huge trump base) cling to the end of times bullshit. Cant have peace love and harmony with wingnuts and conspiracy theorists in the world. And your guy embraces them because they kiss his ring. You cannot be part of the solution if you are part of the problem.

It's pretty simple Punch, if everybody on planet earth just kneels down and kisses the ring - we'll all be alright. And someday if we're lucky we will be blessed with a wave from The Leader.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Israel is run by fuckin wing nuts, and yes Q-anon (huge trump base) cling to the end of times bullshit. Cant have peace love and harmony with wingnuts and conspiracy theorists in the world. And your guy embraces them because they kiss his ring. You cannot be part of the solution if you are part of the problem.

Bingo! Johnny tell the man what he has won!

[sdskinsfan2001]

Me waking up to all of the comments in the political threads.



Don't y'all know it's Friday!?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Me waking up to all of the comments in the political threads.



Don't y'all know it's Friday!?

You started the damn thread! Lol

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You started the damn thread! Lol

I should have named it:

The Saturday thru Thursday Fresh Start Political Thread.

And on the 7th day sdskinsfan2001 said there shall be peace.

[Chico23231]

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Not gonna lie: Biden's C'mon man is growing on me. It's the swiss army knife of responses. It can be used for any question you don't like. And also Tom Jackson is great. Haven't seen him in a while. He's the opposite of Chris Berman.

Miss you Tom.

[nonniey]

So I was reading in a few different forums that people are attacking/blaming (strongly too) Sinema and Manchin for the delay in getting the infrastructure bill approved and I was wondering where this board's posters stand on this take?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So I was reading in a few different forums that people are attacking/blaming (strongly too) Sinema and Manchin for the delay in getting the infrastructure bill approved and I was wondering where this board's posters stand on this take?

Well Manchin is up against a red base. Sinema is not. So I mainly blame her.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well Manchin is up against a red base. Sinema is not. So I mainly blame her.

So that is what I don't get - how can you blame her or Manchin? Sinema, Manchin and a bipartisan group of Senators developed and passed the infrastructure bill in the Senate. It's the progressive's that won't pass it in the House unless/until the the trillions that were taken out in the compromise are passed in a separate bill by the Senate.

Essentially they are holding the 1.2T infrastructure bill hostage until they get what they want. And you blame Sinema, for holding up her own bill?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

So I was reading in a few different forums that people are attacking/blaming (strongly too) Sinema and Manchin for the delay in getting the infrastructure bill approved and I was wondering where this board's posters stand on this take?

I havent read up on any details in a few months when we broke the deal down. Seems like its half hard transportation and half "green deal".

After the covid relief bills, Im not sure 3.5T is digestible.

I dont believe the "it will pay for itself" thing but find it funny Rs are harping on that now when they knowingly went along w the lie Trumps tax bill would pay for itself and not mostly benefit the uber rich and corporations.

Manchin is doing what his voters voted for him to do. I like Manchin. Seems to be "old school" in terms of decorum and respect for statesmanship. Something lost on both sides. Rs have broken and abolished more of the unwritten traditions that fostered bi-partisanship than Ds though.

Sinema - dont know much about her but seems she is not following her platform that got her elected and her voters could rightfully be mad there.

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Id hope a 1.5T to 2T bill can be done.

[sdskinsfan2001]

This is no longer an infrastructure bill. It's a 3.5 trillion dollar spending bill with a 1.5 trillion dollar infrastructure bill attached to it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This is no longer an infrastructure bill. It's a 3.5 trillion dollar spending bill with a 1.5 trillion dollar infrastructure bill attached to it.

Yup and I'm not comfortable with it, putting way too much debt on up coming generations. Dems (Bernie's guys) better wake up or they will screw themselves and the Republicans' will just sit by and watch it happen.