The 2nd Amendment Thread

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mredskins

You realize he shot 3 white guys. One was a convicted sex offender against children and the other a ex con for violent crimes. I am confused why you guys are so up in arms about this.

I am as democrat as they come but just reading the stories of this trail I am just like ok 2 less pieces of white trash in the world.

Well same criticism applies here in this justification as it does on the main point of contention for those angry about the acquittal (ie Rittenhouse having a gun at the riot). Them being scumbags has nothing to do with the legality of the shooting. (ie - Floyd was a scumbag but that didn't give Chauvin the right to do what he did).

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mredskins

You realize he shot 3 white guys. One was a convicted sex offender against children and the other a ex con for violent crimes. I am confused why you guys are so up in arms about this.

I am as democrat as they come but just reading the stories of this trail I am just like ok 2 less pieces of white trash in the world.

You need to read up on the victims.


https://www.npr.org/2021/11/20/10575...er-grosskreutz

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mredskins

You realize he shot 3 white guys. One was a convicted sex offender against children and the other a ex con for violent crimes. I am confused why you guys are so up in arms about this.

I am as democrat as they come but just reading the stories of this trail I am just like ok 2 less pieces of white trash in the world.

Because it isnt Kyle Rittenhouse’s job to police or kill anything or anyone, unless it is in self defense. When you travel somewhere with an AR-15 waiting for you, and venture into a space where people believe in everything you do not you are looking for problems, not trying to stop them. Certainly not trying to protect yourself. He is a murderer.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I blame the laws, the Judge, the prosecution for fumbling and bumbling. A strong prosecution would have gotten him.

yup +1

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I blame the laws, the Judge, the prosecution for fumbling and bumbling. A strong prosecution would have gotten him.

If you would need a strong prosecution and a prosecution favoring judge to get a conviction ... perhaps that case isnt strong enough to satisfy the high burden in criminal cases.

This was self defense. I hate the notion someone can put themselves in a dangerous situation then claim that very danger they sought made them fear for their life but here, it still just barely fell to the side of self defense.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/keno...house-72737520

^^ really good 4:44 min video of the live footage of what happened.

I wish I had seen this video earlier. Rittenhouse did try and flee from the crazy shirtless guy before shooting him. Rittenhouse circled back very soon after shooting shirtless guy and stood next to him and called 911. Then a crowd came and he (smartly) fled.

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I found the video to be very good ..

re the media is the enemy ... we have vast amounts of information at our finger tips. We all have sites we flock to for confirmation bias (redstate or fox for reds; huff root for blue). It is up to each one of us to make our decisions about what sources to believe, give weight to ... personally I like to consume it all. Only direct quotes or videos get a presumption of truth.

"media misled me" = youre a gullible moron then.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

If you would need a strong prosecution and a prosecution favoring judge to get a conviction ... perhaps that case isnt strong enough to satisfy the high burden in criminal cases.

This was self defense. I hate the notion someone can put themselves in a dangerous situation then claim that very danger they sought made them fear for their life but here, it still just barely fell to the side of self defense.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/keno...house-72737520

^^ really good 4:44 min video of the live footage of what happened.

I wish I had seen this video earlier. Rittenhouse did try and flee from the crazy shirtless guy before shooting him. Rittenhouse circled back very soon after shooting shirtless guy and stood next to him and called 911. Then a crowd came and he (smartly) fled.

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I found the video to be very good ..

re the media is the enemy ... we have vast amounts of information at our finger tips. We all have sites we flock to for confirmation bias (redstate or fox for reds; huff root for blue). It is up to each one of us to make our decisions about what sources to believe, give weight to ... personally I like to consume it all. Only direct quotes or videos get a presumption of truth.

"media misled me" = youre a gullible moron then.

I watched the video , I still think a young and stupid kid put himself someplace he shouldn't have been and yes, is guilty.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I watched the video , I still think a young and stupid kid put himself someplace he shouldn't have been and yes, is guilty.

Only have to convince 12 he is not guilty; you were not one of the 12.

I sat on a rape trail for 4 days with 2 days of deliberations. God was that eye opening. The first vote was 3 guilty to 9 not guilty; i was one of the 3. Eventually we found him guilty and he was guilty. But how 12 different minds perceive something that was laid out to them in the exact same order; its amazing humans ever agree on anything.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

If you would need a strong prosecution and a prosecution favoring judge to get a conviction ... perhaps that case isnt strong enough to satisfy the high burden in criminal cases.

This was self defense. I hate the notion someone can put themselves in a dangerous situation then claim that very danger they sought made them fear for their life but here, it still just barely fell to the side of self defense.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/keno...house-72737520

^^ really good 4:44 min video of the live footage of what happened.

I wish I had seen this video earlier. Rittenhouse did try and flee from the crazy shirtless guy before shooting him. Rittenhouse circled back very soon after shooting shirtless guy and stood next to him and called 911. Then a crowd came and he (smartly) fled.

--------------

I found the video to be very good ..

re the media is the enemy ... we have vast amounts of information at our finger tips. We all have sites we flock to for confirmation bias (redstate or fox for reds; huff root for blue). It is up to each one of us to make our decisions about what sources to believe, give weight to ... personally I like to consume it all. Only direct quotes or videos get a presumption of truth.

"media misled me" = youre a gullible moron then.

That was a great video thank you.

I agree with that statement. Rittenhouse looks like some dork that was playing COD one day then decide to go try it himself in real life.

It be like if i had a very expensive house and stacks of gold bars and money and you could see it all from the street. Every night i left the door open and all the windows and signs that said come and take it. Then when someone eventually tries I wait until they are in my home and I shot them. I mean it was self defense but I sure made it enticing; no different then a rat trap with cheese. That is basically what Rittenhouse did, he waited for a opportunity that was perceived to be self defense and that is exactly what the jury perceived it to be self defense.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

If you would need a strong prosecution and a prosecution favoring judge to get a conviction ... perhaps that case isnt strong enough to satisfy the high burden in criminal cases.

This was self defense. I hate the notion someone can put themselves in a dangerous situation then claim that very danger they sought made them fear for their life but here, it still just barely fell to the side of self defense.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/keno...house-72737520

^^ really good 4:44 min video of the live footage of what happened.

I wish I had seen this video earlier. Rittenhouse did try and flee from the crazy shirtless guy before shooting him. Rittenhouse circled back very soon after shooting shirtless guy and stood next to him and called 911. Then a crowd came and he (smartly) fled.

--------------

I found the video to be very good ..

re the media is the enemy ... we have vast amounts of information at our finger tips. We all have sites we flock to for confirmation bias (redstate or fox for reds; huff root for blue). It is up to each one of us to make our decisions about what sources to believe, give weight to ... personally I like to consume it all. Only direct quotes or videos get a presumption of truth.

"media misled me" = youre a gullible moron then.

+1

I had a hard time forming an opinion on the Rittenhouse case other than the "prosecutor sucks" angle. But I'm comfortable with the acquittal - after seeing enough stories about it I believe the argument that it rose to self defense. The gun in the one survivor's hand really made a difference too.

With all that being said - I still think a 17 year old kid bringing a rifle to a riot makes him a dumbass. But being a dumbass doesn't make him a criminal (not yet anyways).

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

+1

I had a hard time forming an opinion on the Rittenhouse case other than the "prosecutor sucks" angle. But I'm comfortable with the acquittal - after seeing enough stories about it I believe the argument that it rose to self defense. The gun in the one survivor's hand really made a difference too.

With all that being said - I still think a 17 year old kid bringing a rifle to a riot makes him a dumbass. But being a dumbass doesn't make him a criminal (not yet anyways).

I just think it’s great that SS accepted the fact the mainstream media is misleading folks and they are the enemy of the people. Rittonhouse is another case in point…as was Jussie Smollett, Russian collision hoax, Steele dossier, Russian bounties, Brett Kavenaugh, etc. They are wrong on most major stories.

If it’s a “you problem,” then the folks who get go back to get their news from those same sources over and over should take a long look in the mirror.

The fact more and more people are “waking up” is noticeable, I can appreciate that.

Also should add, getting news from multiple sources is doing it the right way…SS is correct

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I just think it’s great that SS accepted the fact the mainstream media is misleading folks and they are the enemy of the people. Rittonhouse is another case in point…as was Jussie Smollett, Russian collision hoax, Steele dossier, Russian bounties, Brett Kavenaugh, etc. They are wrong on most major stories.

If it’s a “you problem,” then the folks who get go back to get their news from those same sources over and over should take a long look in the mirror.

The fact more and more people are “waking up” is noticeable, I can appreciate that.

I can literally smell the bullshit through my phone.

And now the Trumpers appreciate the woke? As long as it means waking up in their weird world. Pretty sure you threw a whole lot of garbage into SS’s mouth here. Man this post is fuckin precious. Some of your finest work actually. And by finest i mean most full of shit.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I just think it’s great that SS accepted the fact the mainstream media is misleading folks and they are the enemy of the people. Rittonhouse is another case in point…as was Jussie Smollett, Russian collision hoax, Steele dossier, Russian bounties, Brett Kavenaugh, etc. They are wrong on most major stories.

If it’s a “you problem,” then the folks who get go back to get their news from those same sources over and over should take a long look in the mirror.

The fact more and more people are “waking up” is noticeable, I can appreciate that.

Also should add, getting news from multiple sources is doing it the right way…SS is correct

lol chico, using one of my own internet troll moves against me.

nicely done sir

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I blame the laws, the Judge, the prosecution for fumbling and bumbling. A strong prosecution would have gotten him.

Doubt it given the laws on the books - at least for those charges. Could different charges have been brought? - maybe but then I' not an expert at Wisconsin law.

[Chico23231]

Now I believe all those guys in Georgia are guilty as fuck. I’m hoping for the guilty verdict there

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Now I believe all those guys in Georgia are guilty as fuck. I’m hoping for the guilty verdict there

This was pretty funny, gotta love the Babylon Bee:

https://babylonbee.com/news/clever-b...use-scarecrows

Clever Business Owners Ward Off Looters With Kyle Rittenhouse Scarecrows

SAN FRANCISCO, CA—Small business owners have devised a clever solution to the mostly-peaceful looting problem that has plagued retail stores in the nation’s democrat-run cities.