Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

You do realize that you and 2 people you know isn't a good cross section for the spread and total effect of a worldwide contagion, right? I believe I had it back in Feb of 2020....and it was very mild. Everyone at my job did. Fast forward to valentines day 2021, and my gf got it...she was almost hospitalized. Very very scary to see. I stayed with her the whole time in close contact, and I never tested positive. Some people have no symptoms, some people die. I'm not throwing shade at anyone not getting the vaccine....but let's not act like this thing isn't fucking some people up really badly. Cause it is. And I'm not talking about the (probably) inflated numbers that are/were released after everything was politicized and monitized....but real world shit........this thing is real, and has hurt a lot of people of all ages and demographics.

Obviously, you missed my point, which I'll touch on shortly. I mentioned those two people to shed a bit of light on the vaccine; not to deter or throw any shade. I'm also very aware of what Covid has done to people and their families (regardless of the exaggerated numbers).

My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

Obviously, you missed my point, which I'll touch on shortly. I mentioned those two people to shed a bit of light on the vaccine; not to deter or throw any shade. I'm also very aware of what Covid has done to people and their families.

My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated.

In bold this is the correct take. And I’ll say for those who make the same argument against the vaccine, I think it’s the most reasonable.

On the other side, the numbers do speak for themselves. Vaccines work. And when you see an overwhelming number of hospitalizations and death from the variant on those unvaccinated…I don’t feel anger towards those people but empathy. I don’t want to see fellow citizens die. Just want to end with this, IMO if you are over 50, the risk posed by covid is much greater than a vaccine

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by PorkSkins

My main point was I've noticed the vaccinated are the main people who are ridiculing and ostracizing the non-vaccinated. Quite frankly, we don't know the long-term effects of this trial/emergency vaccine. So, I feel myself and others, who do not want to take the jab, should have the right not to do so without worrying about losing our jobs and being badgered by the vaccinated.

I would have to disagree. I was vaccinated, though i have a natural immunity from when i had it last year. I know this because i shared close contact with my girlfriend for her entire bout with it, and I didnt get it. That being said...Where I work, just like everywhere else, it has become highly politicized. dems get it, and reps dont. Thats just the way its shaken out. I dont take sides. I respect peoples decision for not getting it. I really do. But at the same time, all the people that have decided against, sit in the same room and make sure to tell me, pretty much daily, that Im going to get cancer, or have an enlarged heart, or grow a third eye, and second head and that im kind of garunteed to die from this toxic vaccine that i let the government put in my body. all the while i respect their decision and dont retort. So, it goes both ways....
Yes...there are a lot of people who got the vaccine who are acting shitty to people that havent. but if you think that the unvaccinated arent casting stones calling people like me sheep every day...then you just have your head in the fucking sand.
and this isnt political in nature....im pretty middle of the road, and it seems to me both sides have been pretty shitty during this whole thing.
a sad fact, though, is that the less people there are that are vaccinated, the longer this shit show continues. natural immunity or not. the masks and mandates will continue...im sure of it.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

I would have to disagree. I was vaccinated, though i have a natural immunity from when i had it last year. I know this because i shared close contact with my girlfriend for her entire bout with it, and I didnt get it. That being said...Where I work, just like everywhere else, it has become highly politicized. dems get it, and reps dont. Thats just the way its shaken out. I dont take sides. I respect peoples decision for not getting it. I really do. But at the same time, all the people that have decided against, sit in the same room and make sure to tell me, pretty much daily, that Im going to get cancer, or have an enlarged heart, or grow a third eye, and second head and that im kind of garunteed to die from this toxic vaccine that i let the government put in my body. all the while i respect their decision and dont retort. So, it goes both ways....
Yes...there are a lot of people who got the vaccine who are acting shitty to people that havent. but if you think that the unvaccinated arent casting stones calling people like me sheep every day...then you just have your head in the fucking sand.
and this isnt political in nature....im pretty middle of the road, and it seems to me both sides have been pretty shitty during this whole thing.
a sad fact, though, is that the less people there are that are vaccinated, the longer this shit show continues. natural immunity or not. the masks and mandates will continue...im sure of it.

First of all, watch your fucking tone with me ("then you just have your head in the fucking sand"). Come at me with the same respect as I had with you, dude. I can assure you my head isn't in the sand. I'll touch on that one shortly.

Secondly, I don't give two turds about politics. I'm a man; not some political colloquialism. I've also yet to act shitty to anyone who has been vaccinated. Quite a few people have told me they've been vaccinated. Most times, I don't say anything and move on to another topic. The only people I've said anything to was my best friend and another good friend of mine. I merely said to both, "I'm not gonna take, but to each his or her own," and that was the gist of it.

As far as both sides--the vaccinated vs. the non-vaccinated--going back and forth with one another; I'm sure there's attacks from both sides. Heck, I know as I've been ridiculed on another message board per the vaccinated. I'm sure the vaccinated has received similar ridicule from the non-vaccinated. Frankly, I have yet to personally see it. Not in person nor on the handful of sites which I inhabit. On the other hand, I have witnessed in person (as I have an aunt who was somewhat badgering me about getting vaccinated) and more times than I can count from the boards I've ventured upon from the vaccinated going ape shit on the non-vaccinated.

I bet more times than not the non-vaccinated only get into with the vaccinated is when the latter starts imposing their will and agenda on the former. Again, I'm only going by what I've noticed on the message boards in which I've inhabited. I have an idea, for the most part, it's no different for lots of others in person.

I'm sorry to hear your girlfriend had to endure the severity of Covid, and I hope she's doing much better at this juncture. My gripe is if people wanna take the jab, then go right ahead. Just don't impose their agenda on to others. I may not be so nice, whether it's in person or online, when the next person chastises me for not wanting to be administered the jab.

People have every right to say what does or doesn't go into their bodies (go check out what's going over in Israel). If people deem getting the vaccine or not is best for them, then let 'em be.