Antonio Brown...wildcard?

hurrykaine · 12-13-2005, 11:20 AM

It looks rather ominous for us against Dallas. They're playing to make the playoffs (as are we), and have sore memories of the MNF loss. No way they will come out flat for this one. Seems unlikely that Parcells will get swept in the regular season by Gibbs....unless...

Besides the 92,000 rabid fans, the only one thing I can think of that could be a wildcard is A. Brown. I can see him take the opening kickoff to the house, and Fedex would go nuts. Don't know if he has finally learned to catch the ball on the run, but I wish Gibbs is planning on incorporating him into some offensive packages as well. He will surely get open. Dallas can't game plan for Brown when they are focussed on shutting down Moss and Portis. All they can do is hope he drops it. As far as we're concerned, Brown is 50-50. So what? So was Rod Gardner, and we used him in our offense over the last 4 years.

TheMalcolmConnection · 12-13-2005, 11:36 AM

I'm sure Dallas hasn't forgotten the loss at home, but we are playing for our playoff lives. They are too, but they CAN afford to drop a game.

I'll be one of the 92,000 and it won't be crowd noise that lets the Skins down I'll tell you that.

EXoffender · 12-13-2005, 11:47 AM

We need to be working on a new "wrinkle" in our offense. DAL knows about Moss now. They know we want to run the ball and occasionally dump it off to Cooley in the flats. How about using the ol' flea flicker against Parcells again? How about showing four-WR formations (with Antonio Brown) and mixng up the run and pass? DAL has had tricks up their sleeves since Parcells arrived. We need to have ours.

redsk1 · 12-13-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

We need to be working on a new "wrinkle" in our offense. DAL knows about Moss now. They know we want to run the ball and occasionally dump it off to Cooley in the flats. How about using the ol' flea flicker against Parcells again? How about showing four-WR formations (with Antonio Brown) and mixng up the run and pass? DAL has had tricks up their sleeves since Parcells arrived. We need to have ours.

Couldn't have said it better. Dallas has burned us w/ some good playcalling/wrinkles in the past. We need to show them some different looks as well.

Hog1 · 12-13-2005, 12:00 PM

Our boys need to EXECUTE!

EXoffender · 12-13-2005, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog1

Our boys need to EXECUTE!

Hmmm. That sounds like postgame hogwash for a loss against DAL. No perfectly executed play guarantees positive yards or points when your gameplan is too conservative. Aim for the pylons Gibbs, not just the sticks!

Hog1 · 12-13-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EXoffender

Hmmm. That sounds like postgame hogwash for a loss against DAL. No perfectly executed play guarantees positive yards or points when your gameplan is too conservative. Aim for the pylons Gibbs, not just the sticks!

There is truth in your forked tongue kimosabe. However, you can aim wherever you want, no execution=no points. Jerry Rice made the HOF on one play. Is there anyone who hasn't heard of counter tre'. Great execution and it couldn't be stopped. The only point is, even if the D knows what your going to do, blow em' off the ball and run it till' they can stop it (whatever it might be). Check out the Warpath Q&A with Tony Mcgee. I agree with him, it's not so much about playcalling at this point as it is execution.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 12-13-2005, 04:14 PM

I'm not at all convinced that Antonio Brown is a wildcard or "gamechanger" just because he had one nice kickoff return. I mean, the wedge cleared out every tackler for him - all he had to do was run straight ahead. That's it! No fancy moves - just "run, forrest, run!" Hell, Derrick Dockery could've run back that kickoff...

Jimmy Farris was running along side of him the whole way AND blocking and looked a whole lot faster than Brown. Hmmmm... maybe that's because Ahole Brown was blowing kisses from the 30 yard line. Can't say I'm too impressed with that crap!

If he gets a few more good returns this week AND doesn't cough the ball up - I may start to give him some credit. But a "special weapon" he ain't.

illdefined · 12-13-2005, 04:24 PM

A.Brown *IS* a wildcard.

he could take one to the house, or muff another one inside the 10. blowing kisses before a play is over is already proof he can't be counted on. he could change the game *either* way.

i think it's definitely best to say we shouldn't need to be thinking about him at ALL, because the game will be firmly hand by the other team members.

Southpaw · 12-13-2005, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

Jimmy Farris was running along side of him the whole way AND blocking and looked a whole lot faster than Brown. Hmmmm... maybe that's because Ahole Brown was blowing kisses from the 30 yard line. Can't say I'm too impressed with that crap!

Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.

MTK · 12-13-2005, 04:42 PM

I loved the blowing kisses to the fans.

It wasn't over the top like other celebrations we're seeing from the likes of Chad Johnson.

illdefined · 12-13-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.

yeah but the first time he did it was 50yds away from the endzone! within the 10 do your thing, on the 50 grab that ball muff-man.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 12-13-2005, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

Farris is not even close to Brown in terms of straight foot speed. And what was wrong with him blowing a kiss to the crowd? There wasn't a defender within 20 yards of him.

Allow me to enlighten you on a few things:

1) First of all, there was a defender within 5 yards of him - that's why he took a break from his kiss blowing party to kick it in the final 30 yards.

2) Second, Jimmy Farris actually was running a lot faster than Antonio Brown and I will prove it:

2a) Farris runs a 4.37 40 yard dash, and Brown supposedly runs it in 4.18 (not bad!). HOWEVER, consider that if you calculate in the air friction gradient of Brown's arm/hand extending and retracting with each kiss and factor in the diminished lung capacity due to air kisses and whatever he was shouting at the time (I imagine he was saying something like "How you like them apples now, beeatches!?" or "Hee, hee, hee, hee (schoolgirl giggle)").

Simple thermodynamical calculus can be utilized to determine that:

4.18 (starting speed) + 20x0.05x0.183 (estimated 20 air kisses times wind resistance) + 5x0.0129 (estimated 5 schoolgirl giggles) =

4.43 seconds, which is actually slower than Farris' kiss-free time of 4.37.

There you go.

I usually agree w/ Matty - but pre-touchdown celebrations are not cool. We've all seen too many go awry.

MTK · 12-13-2005, 05:16 PM

AJFC bringing straight facts, how can you argue with that??

EXoffender · 12-13-2005, 05:44 PM

Question. How would you draw double coverage away from Moss? Line Cooley up wide on the opposite side? Or how about Farris? Brunell never looks his way. And Jacobs isn't feared by any DB in this league and he even doubts his own ability to get open! If Gibbs can use Sean Taylor on offense as a decoy, why not Antonio Brown? Oh yeah. Taylor was in there mainly to block, as was Thrash. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think we run the ball as well as KC. Where are we ranked in rushing offense? The reason the team wants to run the ball is that they feel there is less room for error (turning the ball over) not that they run the ball exceptionally well consistently.

12-13-2005, 11:20 AM	#1
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 51 Posts: 762	Antonio Brown...wildcard? It looks rather ominous for us against Dallas. They're playing to make the playoffs (as are we), and have sore memories of the MNF loss. No way they will come out flat for this one. Seems unlikely that Parcells will get swept in the regular season by Gibbs....unless... Besides the 92,000 rabid fans, the only one thing I can think of that could be a wildcard is A. Brown. I can see him take the opening kickoff to the house, and Fedex would go nuts. Don't know if he has finally learned to catch the ball on the run, but I wish Gibbs is planning on incorporating him into some offensive packages as well. He will surely get open. Dallas can't game plan for Brown when they are focussed on shutting down Moss and Portis. All they can do is hope he drops it. As far as we're concerned, Brown is 50-50. So what? So was Rod Gardner, and we used him in our offense over the last 4 years.

12-13-2005, 11:36 AM	#2
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? I'm sure Dallas hasn't forgotten the loss at home, but we are playing for our playoff lives. They are too, but they CAN afford to drop a game. I'll be one of the 92,000 and it won't be crowd noise that lets the Skins down I'll tell you that. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

12-13-2005, 11:47 AM	#3
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? We need to be working on a new "wrinkle" in our offense. DAL knows about Moss now. They know we want to run the ball and occasionally dump it off to Cooley in the flats. How about using the ol' flea flicker against Parcells again? How about showing four-WR formations (with Antonio Brown) and mixng up the run and pass? DAL has had tricks up their sleeves since Parcells arrived. We need to have ours.

12-13-2005, 12:00 PM	#5
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? Our boys need to EXECUTE! __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

12-13-2005, 04:14 PM	#8
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? I'm not at all convinced that Antonio Brown is a wildcard or "gamechanger" just because he had one nice kickoff return. I mean, the wedge cleared out every tackler for him - all he had to do was run straight ahead. That's it! No fancy moves - just "run, forrest, run!" Hell, Derrick Dockery could've run back that kickoff... Jimmy Farris was running along side of him the whole way AND blocking and looked a whole lot faster than Brown. Hmmmm... maybe that's because Ahole Brown was blowing kisses from the 30 yard line. Can't say I'm too impressed with that crap! If he gets a few more good returns this week AND doesn't cough the ball up - I may start to give him some credit. But a "special weapon" he ain't.

12-13-2005, 04:24 PM	#9
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? A.Brown IS a wildcard. he could take one to the house, or muff another one inside the 10. blowing kisses before a play is over is already proof he can't be counted on. he could change the game either way. i think it's definitely best to say we shouldn't need to be thinking about him at ALL, because the game will be firmly hand by the other team members. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

12-13-2005, 04:42 PM	#11
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,573	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? I loved the blowing kisses to the fans. It wasn't over the top like other celebrations we're seeing from the likes of Chad Johnson.

12-13-2005, 05:16 PM	#14
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,573	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? AJFC bringing straight facts, how can you argue with that??

12-13-2005, 05:44 PM	#15
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Antonio Brown...wildcard? Question. How would you draw double coverage away from Moss? Line Cooley up wide on the opposite side? Or how about Farris? Brunell never looks his way. And Jacobs isn't feared by any DB in this league and he even doubts his own ability to get open! If Gibbs can use Sean Taylor on offense as a decoy, why not Antonio Brown? Oh yeah. Taylor was in there mainly to block, as was Thrash. You guys are kidding yourselves if you think we run the ball as well as KC. Where are we ranked in rushing offense? The reason the team wants to run the ball is that they feel there is less room for error (turning the ball over) not that they run the ball exceptionally well consistently.

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