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Old 05-19-2022, 09:59 AM   #1
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Re: The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever

Just curious how did Democrats create the baby formula shortage? Is there another solution to throw at it other than $$?
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Old 05-19-2022, 11:04 AM   #2
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Just curious how did Democrats create the baby formula shortage? Is there another solution to throw at it other than $$?
It’s administration in charge. Biden continues not to be able to foresee and then manage issues as they arise. The question I have is when did the President know about, from my understanding the first time they the Whitehouse press secretary, Biden or Whitehouse statement release which mentions “Baby Formula” is April.

Here is a timeline of when the FDA got the whistleblower report oct of last year…they started moving on it in February:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/baby...ry?id=84703748

Could you imagine this same story and timeline under the Trump administration what the press and Dems would be saying? They would be calling for impeachment.

Have the Democrats even had any hearing yet to find out what’s going on?

This administration is completely inept at every level.
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Just curious how did Democrats create the baby formula shortage? Is there another solution to throw at it other than $$?
Yes.

The vote was partisan because Republicans didn't like the fact that the bill did not have the appropriate measures to hold the FDA accountable, as did the bill the Republicans proposed on Wednesday - which would have increased the supply of baby formula, AND establish oversight and accountability at the FDA, rather than just throw $$ at the FDA without fixing the actual problem.
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Yes.

The vote was partisan because Republicans didn't like the fact that the bill did not have the appropriate measures to hold the FDA accountable, as did the bill the Republicans proposed on Wednesday - which would have increased the supply of baby formula, AND establish oversight and accountability at the FDA, rather than just throw $$ at the FDA without fixing the actual problem.
Are you referring to the FORMULA Act?
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Are you referring to the FORMULA Act?
Babies Need Formula Now Act, I believe.
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Old 05-20-2022, 09:39 AM   #6
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Yes.

The vote was partisan because Republicans didn't like the fact that the bill did not have the appropriate measures to hold the FDA accountable, as did the bill the Republicans proposed on Wednesday - which would have increased the supply of baby formula, AND establish oversight and accountability at the FDA, rather than just throw $$ at the FDA without fixing the actual problem.
https://news.yahoo.com/9-republicans...065128243.html

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Here are the 9 Republicans who voted against a bill to help poor families buy baby formula amid the ongoing shortage
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Old 05-20-2022, 11:23 AM   #7
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Like trump pays his Bills?Ooops, I forgot he doesn't pay his bills he just files bankruptcy.
LOL, that T word is way overplayed sometimes. I know it's hard to let go, but it doesn't actually belong in most arguments. Did you read that article I recommended?

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Here are the 9 Republicans who voted against a bill to help poor families buy baby formula amid the ongoing shortage
Hard to know all their reasons, but here is a response from one:

"Giving the FDA millions of dollars is not going to produce one ounce of baby formula. Getting the FDA out of the way would accomplish that new production. The lengthy and heavy-handed complete shutdown and subsequent investigation of the Sturgis, Michigan Abbott facility in mid-February by the Biden FDA found no deadly bacteria in their products. There was no easing of restrictions by the FDA, there was no reopening plan from the FDA and not even an apparent awareness of the consequences of their actions until there was a critical shortage of formula available to America’s mothers who were unable to feed their infants.

President Biden and his masses of bureaucrats have done nothing for months to alleviate or mitigate the problem, but now want the Democrats in Congress to throw more money at their bureaucratic friends out of a desire to, as Democrats have said before, avoid letting 'a good crisis go to waste.’ Creating a bigger deficit and increasing inflation, while using even more money to create bigger, more dysfunctional government is not a solution, no matter how attractive that may sound to some in the media.

The FDA got us into this mess and they cannot get us out of it. Enabling Abbott to reopen its facility swiftly and removing burdensome government restrictions and regulations from safe baby formula from overseas would be a more efficient solution.”


- Louie Gohmert (TX)
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All of this points to a bigger problem with the industry itself

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How the U.S. got into this baby formula mess

The infant formula industry is a multi-billion dollar business dominated by a handful of firms. In the U.S., just four companies control about 90% of the market, including Abbott Nutrition — the firm behind the shuttered Michigan plant.

These companies operate a relatively small number of formula factories in order to maximize efficiency and keep their production costs low.

"They're concentrating production into a few, very large plants but that creates a lot of risk," says Claire Kelloway of the Open Markets Institute, and anti-monopoly think tank. "A huge part of the crisis we're seeing now is from the closure of one plant."
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Watching the New York Gerrymandering debacle is something else.
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Re: The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ne-war-speech/

George W. Bush called Iraq war ‘unjustified and brutal.’ He meant Ukraine.


Actually, both statements true.
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George W. Bush called Iraq war ‘unjustified and brutal.’ He meant Ukraine.

Actually, both statements true.
Saw that last night. What a major fuck-up and slip of the tongue.
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Re: The Most Fresh & Cordial Political Thread Ever

Asking a question here, What is the general opinion on Student Loan Debt around here?
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Asking a question here, What is the general opinion on Student Loan Debt around here?
No one forced you to go to college, pay your fucking bills.
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No one forced you to go to college, pay your fucking bills.
Like trump pays his Bills?Ooops, I forgot he doesn't pay his bills he just files bankruptcy.
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