Offense Sucks/Turner Sucks/Refs Suck Post-Game Thread

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I heard it on his sirius show this morning. There are a couple guys on it - both in agreement- but I believe it was Florio who was going off about the sport being compromised.

Oh, okay. Appreciate it! I'll see if I can find it via the internet or archives via Sirius (if that exists).

[skinsfan69]

Despite the bs from the refs, if you're going to be a real playoff team you bury the Giants at home. We are not good enough to do that. It's the same old same old.. Heinicke, play calling, Turner, o-line..

Why do you run Samuel into the teeth of the defense and take BR out of the game? How stupid is that? Why does Ron let that happen? That is the dumbest shit ever. Take out BR who is running over the Giants and then give the ball to your 185lb WR to run up the middle. SMH...

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Despite the bs from the refs, if you're going to be a real playoff team you bury the Giants at home. We are not good enough to do that. It's the same old same old.. Heinicke, play calling, Turner, o-line..

Why do you run Samuel into the teeth of the defense and take BR out of the game? How stupid is that? Why does Ron let that happen? That is the dumbest shit ever. Take out BR who is running over the Giants and then give the ball to your 185lb WR to run up the middle. SMH...

On a 3rd and 3!! I'm not a fan of it on any down/distance, but that's egregiously fucking stupid. Only a dumbass would call that.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

On a 3rd and 3!! I'm not a fan of it on any down/distance, but that's egregiously fucking stupid. Only a dumbass would call that.

Anybody got a video of it?

Was that an empty set look then put Samuels in motion to back field?

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Anybody got a video of it?

Was that an empty set look then put Samuels in motion to back field?

I can find tweets of people complaining about how stupid the playcall was, but I can't actually find a clip of it. I'm assuming he at least started in motion to get set in the backfield. Every Turner play requires 5 guys to go in motion at some point before hiking the ball.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Despite the bs from the refs, if you're going to be a real playoff team you bury the Giants at home. We are not good enough to do that. It's the same old same old.. Heinicke, play calling, Turner, o-line..

Why do you run Samuel into the teeth of the defense and take BR out of the game? How stupid is that? Why does Ron let that happen? That is the dumbest shit ever. Take out BR who is running over the Giants and then give the ball to your 185lb WR to run up the middle. SMH...

After he got stuffed twice already. It is mind numbing that with BR and Gibson we ran a wr into the teeth of their defense. Turner wouldn’t be in this league but for his last name.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

After he got stuffed twice already. It is mind numbing that with BR and Gibson we ran a wr into the teeth of their defense. Turner wouldn’t be in this league but for his last name.

I don't understand Turner's logic. You can't be stupid being an NFL OC but I literally think he is stupid. Samuel is not strong enough to run the ball into NFL d-linemen and LB's. He ain't moving the pile. Keep him on the outside running his sweeps. I want to ask Turner what the fuck are you thinking there? Why would you risk injury to one of you wr's doing that? You have a fucking horse who is running over the Giants and you take him out.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Despite the bs from the refs, if you're going to be a real playoff team you bury the Giants at home. We are not good enough to do that. It's the same old same old.. Heinicke, play calling, Turner, o-line..

Why do you run Samuel into the teeth of the defense and take BR out of the game? How stupid is that? Why does Ron let that happen? That is the dumbest shit ever. Take out BR who is running over the Giants and then give the ball to your 185lb WR to run up the middle. SMH...

That was the absolute dumbest thing I saw during the game last night. BRob gets through that arm tackle and probably gets 4-5 more yards on top of that.

It is that kind of shit that gets me fuming during the games...even my 14 year old understands that was a stupid call. I stepped away, and he was like "Dad you gotta see this"...

[skinsfan69]

When it comes down to it you can't put it in the refs hands. If you are going to be a real playoff team you just beat the crap out of NY like the Eagles did and not put yourself in that situation. That's what the really good teams do. The Bengals just destroyed TB in the 2nd h. That is what you do.

[MTK]

It's super frustrating because I still think we have the better team, but they obviously outplayed us last night. Sucks man, should have had that one. Have to find a way to take 2 our of these last 3 now to have a shot.

[MTK]

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

That's not how you coach 'em up?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

That's not how you coach 'em up?

I can't decide which one was worse - the Curtis Samuel mugging no call or the ref telling Terry he was good then immediately flagging him. Fuck 'em.

With that being said that's not why we lost - we lost because our D couldn't handle them and because Heinicke is limited as a qb.

[SunnySide]

1/10 on 3rd down conversion, but only 1 true 3 and out possession.

Turner is handcuffed with playing calling. Heinike just limits what yo can do, makes what we do do predictable and the O line is below average. Leno left alone is becoming a problem. Outside of receivers making incredible 50-50 catches and runs up the middle ... youd think the PA would be killer.

Jones ran 10/35. D goal no. 1 seemed to be not let Jones beat you with his feet so we called lots of zone vs man, spied him ... we achieved goal no. 1 but at what cost.

5 down lineman has been our answer to stopping the run past few weeks, Giants audibled out of a play early when we went 5 DL, got a nice pass play and we seemed hesitant to go 5 DL as much

Sweat - Im sure he'll have a decent PFF grade but hes been Kerrigan this year, quiet for long stretches then has a big stat game.

Allen/payne - Giants just doubled and chipped those guys right out of the equation.

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Bad luck at times, bad ref calls at times (hold on Lucas to negate a 11 yd run right before Thib scoop and score was BS)

Giants were the better team.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

1/10 on 3rd down conversion, but only 1 true 3 and out possession.

Turner is handcuffed with playing calling. Heinike just limits what yo can do, makes what we do do predictable and the O line is below average. Leno left alone is becoming a problem. Outside of receivers making incredible 50-50 catches and runs up the middle ... youd think the PA would be killer.

Jones ran 10/35. D goal no. 1 seemed to be not let Jones beat you with his feet so we called lots of zone vs man, spied him ... we achieved goal no. 1 but at what cost.

5 down lineman has been our answer to stopping the run past few weeks, Giants audibled out of a play early when we went 5 DL, got a nice pass play and we seemed hesitant to go 5 DL as much

Sweat - Im sure he'll have a decent PFF grade but hes been Kerrigan this year, quiet for long stretches then has a big stat game.

Allen/payne - Giants just doubled and chipped those guys right out of the equation.

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Bad luck at times, bad ref calls at times (hold on Lucas to negate a 11 yd run right before Thib scoop and score was BS)

Giants were the better team.

I wished we had done a better job mixing up things on defense by bringing extra pressure on Jones. The defense only allowed 13 points, so they basically did their job. A few mishaps due to long drives. But overall, they did their job. You gotta score more points on the offensive side of the ball.

Did I say I really dislike this staff?