Skins fans should hope Ramsey starts and does well for the offseason (merged)

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Beautifully phrased Sunra. Yo Ramsey Homers, coulda', woulda', shoulda', don't win games. I agree Patrick "may" be able to do these things. Brunell IS doing it. I am a REDSKIN fan, not a Brunell fan! I don't put ANY player above what is best for the TEAM. At this time, Brunell is what is best for the team. There is NOT ONE PERSON that has credentials in the NFL that would disagree with that. Why do you?

PS-mobil QB? John Elway, Steve Young, for just a couple

Hog, I would like to add to that list of mobile QBs, Terry Bradshaw himself.
And does anyone remember Kenny "The Snake" (the original snake!) Stabler?

Oh, you might want to add our own beloved Joey T. to that list too!!

[offiss]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

not true what mobile QB has won a a superbowl name even 1? look at brady .....i think u still lose abit with that mobilty....Ramsey can make throws that brunell simply cant make.... in fact his brain wont even let him consider them.... and for ramsey its a flip of the wrist... Name 1 pass over the middle longer than a slant that u have seen him throw in the last 5 weeks.... as high as that TD Ramsey threw was brunell could not have made it... i bet ya moss and the boys want Ramsey throwing that ball to him.... And as good as the offensive line is playing Ramsey would pick them apart .his release looked very crisp sunday.... and picking up on 3rd and 4th receivers...brunell might make 1 good run a game and a flip pass or 2 ..but how many open guys does he miss down field?????? cause he cant make a throw? maybe thats why he throws it away so much.. and Ramsey isnt exactly Lane...

Agreed!

The problem is whoever Gibbs deciedes to play the other QB is a waste, if Ramsey comes out and light's the world on fire it will be because he watched Brunell all season, not that he had the ability all along.


I also have to laugh at everyone hoping he really shines on sunday so we can trade him in the offseason, I don't get it? So if the guy proves he's a #1 QB we should trade him? Brunell will be another year older, which puts us 1 hit away from Campbell, whom we all know Gibbs doesn't like young QB's, when we have Ramsey at a very reasonable price for next season, I hope he doesn't go anywhere, but he may really force Gibbs hand, and I could see that happening after the season is over. I really don't know after what happened in the first game that theres a promise that Gibbs could make to keep Ramsey on board. Unfortunatly!


Personally I think when it's all said and done we will be in a similar situation to the chargers, Ramsey will win the job, and we will be shopping Campbell.

And we will have to pay threw the nose to keep Ramsey.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by offiss

Agreed!

The problem is whoever Gibbs deciedes to play the other QB is a waste, if Ramsey comes out and light's the world on fire it will be because he watched Brunell all season, not that he had the ability all along.


I also have to laugh at everyone hoping he really shines on sunday so we can trade him in the offseason, I don't get it? So if the guy proves he's a #1 QB we should trade him? Brunell will be another year older, which puts us 1 hit away from Campbell, whom we all know Gibbs doesn't like young QB's, when we have Ramsey at a very reasonable price for next season, I hope he doesn't go anywhere, but he may really force Gibbs hand, and I could see that happening after the season is over. I really don't know after what happened in the first game that theres a promise that Gibbs could make to keep Ramsey on board. Unfortunatly!


Personally I think when it's all said and done we will be in a similar situation to the chargers, Ramsey will win the job, and we will be shopping Campbell.

And we will have to pay threw the nose to keep Ramsey.

I would love to see where he would be right now if he would have had the chance to grow all season with this team...brunell has has all year and he has steadily declined.....

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I would love to see where he would be right now if he would have had the chance to grow all season with this team...brunell has has all year and he has steadily declined.....

????? How has Brunell steadily declined?

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

not true what mobile QB has won a a superbowl name even 1?

Steve Young.

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcase.net

look at brady .....i think u still lose abit with that mobilty....Ramsey can make throws that brunell simply cant make.... in fact his brain wont even let him consider them.... and for ramsey its a flip of the wrist... Name 1 pass over the middle longer than a slant that u have seen him throw in the last 5 weeks.... as high as that TD Ramsey threw was brunell could not have made it... i bet ya moss and the boys want Ramsey throwing that ball to him.... And as good as the offensive line is playing Ramsey would pick them apart .his release looked very crisp sunday.... and picking up on 3rd and 4th receivers...brunell might make 1 good run a game and a flip pass or 2 ..but how many open guys does he miss down field?????? cause he cant make a throw? maybe thats why he throws it away so much.. and Ramsey isnt exactly Lane...

Oh come on off of it Railcon. Like I've said before, you can't base a quarterback soley on his arm strength. You're making Ramsey out to be like he's Joe Montana and that he's never thrown an incomplete pass in his entire life. The fact of the matter is, Brunell has lead this team very nicely this year...and has helped to put us in a situation of being in the playoffs. Brunell makes better decisions than Patrick Ramsey at this point. That might change in the near future, but until that is fact, you go with Mark Brunell.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Steve Young.



Brunell makes better decisions than Patrick Ramsey at this point. That might change in the near future, but until that is fact, you go with Mark Brunell.

I'll give you Steve Young....

But how do you know he's making better decisions .when he hasent even played.... and the little bit he did play his arm looked strong .. and quick.....maybe leading the nfl in throwing the ball away and fumbling is a better decision....???? or maybe that wonderfully thrown TD last sat the the Giants Linebacker was a great decision.....

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I'll give you Steve Young....

But how do you know he's making better decisions .when he havent even played.... and the little bit he did play his arm looked strong .. and quick.....maybe leading the nfl in throwing the ball away and fumbling is a better decision....???? or maybe that wonderfully thrown TD last sat the the Giants Linebacker was a great decision.....

Or maybe the scramble for a first down, or the last minute shovel pass to Robert Royal for a first down, or the playaction pass to Moss for a TD, or the screen pass to Moss for a TD, etc......You can harp all you want, but would've could've should've doesn't win you games.

I'm not putting one player above the team like you're obviously doing. If Ramsey comes in and plays I'll root for him. I'm a Redskins fan first. Period. I root for this team....I'm not going to sit here and pick a player apart...ESPECIALLY since we're winning and having a great shot a making the playoffs and even winning the division.

[railcon56]

But look if Mark does play i more than hope he has an All WORLD DAY!!!! I just personally think Ramsey is a better QB...but 1st of all I want the Skins to beat the eagles sweep.... we have nothing but eagles fans and dallas fans at work ..(I live in PA) i already have my broom redy right by the door.... and i am gonna be the biggest asshole to those fans like they were to me for so many years...

[SUNRA]

Mark Brunell should have been selected to the Pro Bowl over Micheal Vick. Many experts have compared this year to Brunell's time in Jacksonville and rightfully so. Someone should put together a collage of highlights of his games this year and watch the unbelieveable passes he makes dispite the games we loss. The most memorable was his tight spiral passes against the Broncos in the cold rain to Cooley. What I respect the most about him is he rarely if ever call an audible. Rather he adjust to the blitz and makes the harder throws under pressure. Mark Brunell is the best option for a Superbowl ring under this Joe Gibbs era.

[jtm74]

yea that was a beautiful td pass to the giants linebacker start campbell

[mooby]

Originally Posted by jtm74

yea that was a beautiful td pass to the giants linebacker start campbell

are you serious? You want Campbell to start because Brunell threw an interception that was returned for a touchdown? In a game we won by 15 points? Brunell has been nothing short of great for us this season. He has 22 touchdowns against 9 interceptions. Those aren't numbers of a crappy quarterback, those are numbers of a damn good quarterback.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by jtm74

yea that was a beautiful td pass to the giants linebacker start campbell

Uh no.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by jtm74

yea that was a beautiful td pass to the giants linebacker start campbell

was a perfect pass

[jtm74]

in case yall forgot portis threw the nicest td pass of the day

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

Jason Campbel is the Future. This game is in the Present.

peace