Brunell sucks

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by dag

Or Steve McNair?

That's interesting, but somehow I don't see that happening.

[CrashRiley]

If Joe Gibbs has proven anything, it's this:

When he has a very good offensive line and outstanding running backs and wide receivers (and tight ends for that matter, since they are a Gibbs trademark) then all he needs is a GOOD quarterback to be successful, he doesn't require a Hall-of-Famer to get the team to the playoffs.

Brunell is no worse a quarterback than Mark Rypien. Sure, like everyone else, I was down on Brunell last year and I couldn't understand, for the life of me, why Gibbs stuck with him, but I don't question a Hall-of-Fame coach, he has his reasons. the Post's Tony Kornheiser has done a 180 on Brunell and I think that most of us have also. He's smart and capable and fits into this offensive scheme very well.

I feel sorry for Ramsey, though. I hope he gets a chance somewhere else if not here.

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

I'll admit I was down on Brunell in the first half like many others here. But I will give the man his props. He played like a smart savvy veteran in the second half which is why Gibbs has him running the show in the first place. He plays with guts and determination and a desire to win. I think it was in the middle of the 4th quarter when we had the ball and he dropped back to pass, saw daylight, and ran for a first down. Now if I were him especially after getting my knee whacked against the Giants, the last thing I'd be thinking about is running. Props to Brunell for showing some guts and playing to win. He may not be the most gifted QB on the field today, but he's experienced, he's smart, and he does what it takes to win. In the end, that's what counts.

[PFunk26]

I used to hate Brunell last year I will be the first to admit it, he brought me around this year and today while wearing my Brunell jersey I never gave up faith, I trust Brunell from the first Dallas game til he calls it quits, as I do with Gibbs

[skindogger47]

Brunnel got us here.

[itvnetop]

check this quote: "Let's settle this question once and for all. Brunell is still an extremely viable NFL quarterback, a fine leader with physical courage who sees the whole field and whose arms and legs are very much alive."

so basically, if you still think he sucks (sitting here at 10-6 in the playoffs), you're worse than sally jenkins (this is her quote).

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by Bozzy

He should not be back next season.

What drugs are you on??? Yes he didn't do well today but he was hurt!!! I would have put in Ramsey because a hurt Burnell was maybe a little worst. If both are well hand down Burnell is better then Ramsey!!! So lay of the drugs and just say NO!!!! :smashfrea

[skinsttw]

Brunell got us to the playoffs, and I think he wants payback time in Tampa.

[offiss]

I think Brunell has 1 mode and that's look for Moss, if that option is closed he immediatly checks off to Cooley, the problem that arouse today is Philli took Cooley away from him, essentially removing his saftey net, Brunell doesn't seem to be able to look for the #2 reciever. He did make a big play to Thrash and had all he could do to reach him, his deep ball stay's in the air a long time, you have to be pretty wide open for the defender not to be able to close in on it as Thrash was.

He defiently was off target today, but I think Philli's coverage had as much to do with that as his injury. The problem that we have is Tampa saw exactly what the Eagles did and will attempt to do the same thing to us next week.

This is Brunell's season to win or lose, I still stand firm on my stance that we would be a better team with Ramsey at the controls, but I would be worried at this point in the season to have Ramsey playing in a big playoff game without the luxory of playing in an offense for a legitamate amount of playing time. But unless Brunell can't walk Gibbs isn't going to replace him no matter how bad he plays, it was pretty obvious that Brunell wasen't ready to play, if that wasen't the case we will have a problem come saturday, hopefully he heals up by then, we can't rely on TO's by the opposition to bail us out.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by offiss

I think Brunell has 1 mode and that's look for Moss, if that option is closed he immediatly checks off to Cooley, the problem that arouse today is Philli took Cooley away from him, essentially removing his saftey net, Brunell doesn't seem to be able to look for the #2 reciever. He did make a big play to Thrash and had all he could do to reach him, his deep ball stay's in the air a long time, you have to be pretty wide open for the defender not to be able to close in on it as Thrash was.

He defiently was off target today, but I think Philli's coverage had as much to do with that as his injury. The problem that we have is Tampa saw exactly what the Eagles did and will attempt to do the same thing to us next week.

This is Brunell's season to win or lose, I still stand firm on my stance that we would be a better team with Ramsey at the controls, but I would be worried at this point in the season to have Ramsey playing in a big playoff game without the luxory of playing in an offense for a legitamate amount of playing time. But unless Brunell can't walk Gibbs isn't going to replace him no matter how bad he plays, it was pretty obvious that Brunell wasen't ready to play, if that wasen't the case we will have a problem come saturday, hopefully he heals up by then, we can't rely on TO's by the opposition to bail us out.

Yea well said, Brunell did not play well, but that is no need to hate. He still got us this far, but Tampa will be a problem, we need to change up the game plan and get Brown and Trash involved as recievers.

[Skinsgirl]

Sentimentally I still like Ramsey, but everyone has to realize how much and how well Brunnel has played this season. Believe me I grudgely give him this credit.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by offiss

I think Brunell has 1 mode and that's look for Moss, if that option is closed he immediatly checks off to Cooley, the problem that arouse today is Philli took Cooley away from him, essentially removing his saftey net, Brunell doesn't seem to be able to look for the #2 reciever. He did make a big play to Thrash and had all he could do to reach him, his deep ball stay's in the air a long time, you have to be pretty wide open for the defender not to be able to close in on it as Thrash was.

He defiently was off target today, but I think Philli's coverage had as much to do with that as his injury. The problem that we have is Tampa saw exactly what the Eagles did and will attempt to do the same thing to us next week.

This is Brunell's season to win or lose, I still stand firm on my stance that we would be a better team with Ramsey at the controls, but I would be worried at this point in the season to have Ramsey playing in a big playoff game without the luxory of playing in an offense for a legitamate amount of playing time. But unless Brunell can't walk Gibbs isn't going to replace him no matter how bad he plays, it was pretty obvious that Brunell wasen't ready to play, if that wasen't the case we will have a problem come saturday, hopefully he heals up by then, we can't rely on TO's by the opposition to bail us out.

I think that captures how i feel.. We will sink or float with him i am not gonna put negative karma or whatever on him... i just want a win...but i like you think we would be a better team with ramsey but i wish brunell luck..

[#56fanatic]

I was a Brunell hater from day 1. I thought Ramsey should have been the guy. But, in no way do I think we would be 10-6 in the playoffs if Brunell wasn't pulling the string. Ramsey makes too many mistakes trying to force things downfield. Brunell manages the game, doesn't make mistakes, and takes what teams gives us. Our defense is too good to put in that position. With a defense that is as good as ours, you minimize your mistakes, and let the D give you field position. Ramsey would not have been able to complete a season with 22 TDs and ONLY 9 picks. Time and time again Brunell stepped up and made playes, whether is was throwing the ball away, moving around in the pocket buying some time, or running for the a big first down, which he has done a number of times this season. There is no other guy that deserves to be or frankly should be behind center than Brunell. He is our guy, and if hes healthy will be next year too. Ramsey will be dealt to the highest bidder, Campbell will be the #2 next year, then might start year #3. Dont hate on Brunell, without him we are not even in the playoffs.

[GoSkins!]

Does anyone else here believe that Brunnel was the better choice for the Philly game (better than a healthy Ramsey)?

Look, I like Ramsey, but we were playing the Eagles. The game plan for the offense was simple. Protect the football and score enough points to force the Eagles offense to make mistakes. Brunnel, while not healthy, can protect the football better than Ramsey. If we were going into a shoot out against a better and more polished offense, Ramsey may have been the better choice for the game. Playing Ramsey is like playing the stock market, high risk, high reward. Brunnel is more like a stock broker, he finds the hot stock (Moss, Cooley, Portis, Sellars...) and lets them do it.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I was a Brunell hater from day 1. I thought Ramsey should have been the guy. But, in no way do I think we would be 10-6 in the playoffs if Brunell wasn't pulling the string. Ramsey makes too many mistakes trying to force things downfield. Brunell manages the game, doesn't make mistakes, and takes what teams gives us. Our defense is too good to put in that position. With a defense that is as good as ours, you minimize your mistakes, and let the D give you field position. Ramsey would not have been able to complete a season with 22 TDs and ONLY 9 picks. Time and time again Brunell stepped up and made playes, whether is was throwing the ball away, moving around in the pocket buying some time, or running for the a big first down, which he has done a number of times this season. There is no other guy that deserves to be or frankly should be behind center than Brunell. He is our guy, and if hes healthy will be next year too. Ramsey will be dealt to the highest bidder, Campbell will be the #2 next year, then might start year #3. Dont hate on Brunell, without him we are not even in the playoffs.

I to was in the frame of mind that you had!!! But when I saw that Ramsey was so bad and the news that Burnell was hurt last season along with his better showin in the perseason I was with you! I believe that we would have not made the play-offs with out Burnell! He played well on one leg this week and i hope he is well this week against TB for us to win!!!