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Old 02-21-2006, 02:38 AM   #1
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its nice that you think clemons is ready to go... he's been decent on rushing the passer, but i haven't seen him in coverage etc at all. and what happens if he gets hurt? you need a reserve and without lavar we'd need to get somebody who isn't worthless.
That is what the draft is for, it is also why Williams makes the big bucks, he can take an athlete and make him a football player, Williams has proven he can take a nobody and have him outplay Lavar, [see Marshall] as well Clemons was on his way to claiming that spot before his injury. Perhaps he's not an everydown player yet? That's why we have scouts, to draft a player who can step in if need be. I can't imagine a rookie taking longer to learn the position than Lavar has.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:40 PM   #2
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We have painted ouselves into a corner with Lavar, obviously our big spending is finally coming home to roost, Lavar, Brunell, are 2 of the biggest wastes of money we have. I believe we should cut ties with him, not only can we replace him with a rookie, but we could upgrade, I am absolutly comfortable with Clemons full time if he returns healthy.

We have to get the cap under control, although I feel we are prepared to take the next step to legitamate SB contender, our cap this year may not allow it, this may be a year that we go with Campbell from day 1, and send Brunell packing, I say we turn Campbell loose and see what we have, we can then have our cap under control for the following season, Lavar is a waste, and Brunell is not the future, time to make some tough cuts for the good of our future.
I can't take a single thing you say seriously, because you're so obviously biased against Mark Brunell.
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I can't take a single thing you say seriously, because you're so obviously biased against Mark Brunell.
Yes I am, but it's not unfounded bias. But to whomever thinks Brunell is the answer, good luck. Brunell is no longer the apple of Gibbs eye, that honor now belongs to Campbell! As Gibbs said it's time for Campbell to go to work and start earning his paycheck, I don't believe he was refering to him holding a clipboard.
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Yes I am, but it's not unfounded bias. But to whomever thinks Brunell is the answer, good luck. Brunell is no longer the apple of Gibbs eye, that honor now belongs to Campbell! As Gibbs said it's time for Campbell to go to work and start earning his paycheck, I don't believe he was refering to him holding a clipboard.
I think it's unfounded. 23 TDs and 11 INTs. It speaks for itself. But I'm not going to get into a QB war here, because if Campbell can play even better than Brunell did in 2005, then I'm all for playing him.

I agree with your stance on Lavar though. I just hope the cap figures work out in such a way that makes it possible to trade him, because I don't want him as a Redskin anymore.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:50 AM   #5
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I just dont see where the LaVar bashing comes from. He was the face of the organization through thick and thin, during those bad years. He wants to be a Redskin for life. LOYALTY, us fans bitch about loyalty, that the players are here for the money, they have no loyalty. This guy has more loyalty to the Redskins than I have ever seen out of todays players. He dropped the 6.5 million case, he has said he will take less money, rework his deal to stay with the team. I think if you look at the stats from the last 5 games, it warrants him staying. He is GETTING to the 100% he was a couple of years ago. He will probably drop a good bit of the weight he gained while he wasn't playing. Interesting stat, with the limited amount of playing time he had this past year, he lead the team in tackles for loss. He was all over the field the second half of the season and the guy loves it here. He plays with more passion and emotion than I can remember. I think dropping LaVar will be a mistake for this franchise. It will cause a lot of fan resintmant to the team. I am not saying that we couldn't find a suitable replacement, but not the caliber of LaVar. With him and Washington on the field, HEALTHY and 100%, its a dominating duo.

However, the word from Clayton last night was he wont be on the team next year. SUCKS!!
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:54 PM   #6
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Cutting Brunell leaves Gibbs with no safety net at all, especially since it's obvious Ramsey is on his way out.

There's just no way Gibbs would take that big of a risk at QB.
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Old 02-20-2006, 10:27 PM   #7
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Cutting Brunell leaves Gibbs with no safety net at all, especially since it's obvious Ramsey is on his way out.

There's just no way Gibbs would take that big of a risk at QB.
They would not cut him this year, but he'll have to go sooner or later. I don't see him playing out his whole contract.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:20 AM   #8
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They would not cut him this year, but he'll have to go sooner or later. I don't see him playing out his whole contract.
That's quite obvious, he was never brought here to play the full 7 years. His deal was essentially a 3 year contract.
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from a numbers standpoint, ditching mark brunell this offseason makes lot of sense... but like i said, i don't see gibbs ever doing it. IF MB got the axe, obviously you'd have to keep ramsey for his last year.
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There are a select few LaVar "bashers".

Most of us are just seeing the reality of the situation, he's very overpaid and based on what we saw last year, he doesn't appear to be an ideal fit for GW's defense.

Based on those two statements he's very expendable.
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Old 02-21-2006, 03:13 PM   #11
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A $9M cap hit sounded crazy a year ago but the team made it work to get rid of Coles, I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to make it work again this year. Pending the CBA if course.
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A $9M cap hit sounded crazy a year ago but the team made it work to get rid of Coles, I wouldn't be surprised if they find a way to make it work again this year. Pending the CBA if course.
You could be right. We will see in next couple of months what goes down. For the sake of my Jerseys, I hope he stays. Every year I buy one the cut the damn player loose or trade them. I am wondering who I can get that will be around for long haul.
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Old 02-21-2006, 04:25 PM   #13
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Re: Lavar has been missused...

when lavar signed his huge contract he was not overrated and he deserved every penny. i remember how happy i was that the skins would make such a good move.

now, since recieving that contract, lavar has been hurt. people "all of a sudden" say he can't play lb, he doesn't study,bla,bla, bla.....thats all bull crap, he was the best player on this team since the day he was drafted. he is no longer the best player but still a darn good one, in my opinion.

the one thing i will agree with is lavar ran his mouth too much and for that reason, he fell out of favor with this coaching staff.

if he is willing to take a pay cut then i say he should stay, be given the chance to show he still has the ability to be a dominant lb and be given the chance to rebuild his relationship with this coaching staff.
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in the NFL its all about price/performance, and guys like wynn and lavar are hitting 1/1 and the team is capped out, so you gotta do something about it. the choices are pretty clear though... if lavar stays brunell and wynn HAVE to go. if he goes his number is going to force people out when the 12mill hits, or cap is in bad shape this season and next.
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Old 02-22-2006, 06:56 AM   #15
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jordanz head is as big as a melon,and if he doesnt stop the yellin,im pm matty and tellin
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