Brunell is Bad

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Gibbs seems to have a pretty good handle on QB's, so rather than rehashing this tired argument I'll just defer to his judgement on the matter.

In 2006, we can expect Ramsey will be elsewhere and Al Saunders to have the final say on the QB decision. Joe will offer his input certainly.

I gave Brunell an A- through the SF game but he faded after that. I have him at a C for the year. Although there were other contributing factors, I thought the dropoff had more to do with defenses adjusting to take away Brunell's limited arsenal than anything else.

I can't see Mark doing any better in 2006 than he did finishing 2005. I hope Campbell is the real deal.

[12thMan]

"At no point did Brunell demonstrate an ability to read coverages and complete passes down the middle of the field."

You must be kidding with this statement???

[#56fanatic]

I can not believe this is even a discussion. The man had the best year he has had probably ever. Over 3000 yards, 22 tds and 5,6 ints. The offense was 11 in the NFL. A 1400 almost 1500 yard receiver. His experience to throw the ball away when there was nothing open is what Gibbs wants. he does not want turnovers, of any kind. Especially with our D, you dont need to force things. What else would you want out of your QB? If those stats aren't good enough for you, then I dont know what you think is acceptable.

[Sean Taylor is God]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I can not believe this is even a discussion. The man had the best year he has had probably ever. Over 3000 yards, 22 tds and 5,6 ints. The offense was 11 in the NFL. A 1400 almost 1500 yard receiver. His experience to throw the ball away when there was nothing open is what Gibbs wants. he does not want turnovers, of any kind. Especially with our D, you dont need to force things. What else would you want out of your QB? If those stats aren't good enough for you, then I dont know what you think is acceptable.

obviously you haven't read the other things I have written. Yes, he produced statistically, my point is there are many QB's who could step in and do that same job with the same or better results. why don't you refer to my previous post and tell me which QB's are better or worse.

[MTK]

10-6, Playoffs, hard to hate on that.

We've discussed this topic to death, try a search.

[Sean Taylor is God]

It's not hard to hate when your offense becomes completely ineffective. I understand that you want to reward results, but I think you are giving him undo credit.

[GoSkins!]

I'm not trying to be rude, but you seem to be showing up on the site and posting the same threads that we have discussed here for months. Please show us, the guys that are here every day, some respect by looking through the locker room forum some before you post a "new" thread. Trust me, this one isn't new.

If you don't believe me, find some posts by "offiss".

[Sean Taylor is God]

Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I'm not trying to be rude, but you seem to be showing up on the site and posting the same threads that we have discussed here for months. Please show us, the guys that are here every day, some respect by looking through the locker room forum some before you post a "new" thread. Trust me, this one isn't new.

If you don't believe me, find some posts by "offiss".

You're right. I just started and don't really understand the forum format. I'm really just trying to spark interesting debates but people seem really defensive.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

You're right. I just started and don't really understand the forum format. I'm really just trying to spark interesting debates but people seem really defensive.

Everyone here is looking for interesting topics and insight and I understand the newbies are always going to have a little trouble adjusting. You seem to be posting a lot so I guess you just stick out more right now.

Just click the "forum" click on the home page. Then click "locker room". You can look through the existing threads until you find one with the topic you are looking to talk about. Then post your opinion and it will automagically jump to first in line on the homepage! If you don't find your topic, then by all means, post a new thread!

Just for the record, Brunnel had a very good year. My concern is that I don't know if he can reproduce his production next year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

You're right. I just started and don't really understand the forum format. I'm really just trying to spark interesting debates but people seem really defensive.

Please excuse the hostility but you have to understand we've discussed this very topic ad nauseam... when you're new to a forum try doing a search before posting. Often you'll find we're already discussing your topic.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

It's not hard to hate when your offense becomes completely ineffective. I understand that you want to reward results, but I think you are giving him undo credit.

Perhaps your criticism of Brunell is also undo.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sean Taylor is God

It's not hard to hate when your offense becomes completely ineffective. I understand that you want to reward results, but I think you are giving him undo credit.

LOL and you're giving him zero credit.

I'm not giving him all the credit for the 11 wins, but I'm certainly not going to say he played no part in that.

[MTK]

The Bucs had a good running game and defense.

The Panthers had Smith and a good defense, and Delhomme is a pretty damn good QB anyway.

The Bears had a running game and defense around Grossman.

[MTK]

I know the Parrot doesn't need a supporting cast, he's a one bird wrecking crew.

[dmek25]

alright stisgod we are going after jeff george this off season because according to you ,all you need to suceed is a cannon for an arm.we made the playoffs,,taking one step at a time i trust coach gibbs!do you?