Who starts at QB?

Paintrain · 03-15-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grayacre

I agree with nearly everything you wrote, NFLeurope, except for your opening apology. I will not apologize for calling the way that the 'Skins have treated Ramsey a disgrace. I hope that he lands in a good situation for next season.

I really hate to get back into this but it bugs the hell out of me.. How was the way Ramsey treated 'a disgrace'? The 2 training camps that he flopped? The 2 pre-seasons he played crappily thru? The turnovers when he played in the regular season? The sacks because he held the ball for......ev......er....?

Guys, he didn't step up and grab the job, electrify the team, wow the coaches, establish that he was unquestionably, unequivocably THE MAN so please spare us the 'Ramsey never had a chance' bs..

If he came in and played like Elway or Favre (both of whom he's been compared to in this thread) then we wouldn't be having this discussion.. He came in and played like Gus Frerotte and his career path is following accordingly..

Schneed10 · 03-15-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I really hate to get back into this but it bugs the hell out of me.. How was the way Ramsey treated 'a disgrace'? The 2 training camps that he flopped? The 2 pre-seasons he played crappily thru? The turnovers when he played in the regular season? The sacks because he held the ball for......ev......er....?

Guys, he didn't step up and grab the job, electrify the team, wow the coaches, establish that he was unquestionably, unequivocably THE MAN so please spare us the 'Ramsey never had a chance' bs..

If he came in and played like Elway or Favre (both of whom he's been compared to in this thread) then we wouldn't be having this discussion.. He came in and played like Gus Frerotte and his career path is following accordingly..

Marvelous post.

SmootSmack · 03-15-2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I really hate to get back into this but it bugs the hell out of me.. How was the way Ramsey treated 'a disgrace'? The 2 training camps that he flopped? The 2 pre-seasons he played crappily thru? The turnovers when he played in the regular season? The sacks because he held the ball for......ev......er....?

Guys, he didn't step up and grab the job, electrify the team, wow the coaches, establish that he was unquestionably, unequivocably THE MAN so please spare us the 'Ramsey never had a chance' bs..

If he came in and played like Elway or Favre (both of whom he's been compared to in this thread) then we wouldn't be having this discussion.. He came in and played like Gus Frerotte and his career path is following accordingly..

I gotta agree with Schneed. That post really summarizes the feelings a lot of us have about Ramsey. Especially the part about him following the career path of Frerotte. That's my fear (for lack of a better word) about what Ramsey's career will be. He'll be steady for a long time, but this is as good as he'll be...Of course, I could be wrong

warriorzpath · 03-15-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I gotta agree with Schneed. That post really summarizes the feelings a lot of us have about Ramsey. Especially the part about him following the career path of Frerotte. That's my fear (for lack of a better word) about what Ramsey's career will be. He'll be steady for a long time, but this is as good as he'll be...Of course, I could be wrong

Hopefully the redskins will be winning so many games plus the superbowl, to even notice what ramsey is doing. My point: the redskins should focus on what they have instead of what they don't have - winning would acheive this, they wouldn't have to worry about him or anyone else that doesn't have an indian on their helmet.

That Guy · 03-15-2006, 03:10 AM

if we can only get a 7th, keep him and open the competition :P who cares.

there is no way collins is the #2, and if campbell isn't better than him, why on earth did we watse a #1 on him?

he came in early and was studying the playbook immediately. He works hard and wants to be prepared, so lets see what he has.

RedskinPete · 03-15-2006, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

if we can only get a 7th, keep him and open the competition :P who cares.

there is no way collins is the #2, and if campbell isn't better than him, why on earth did we watse a #1 on him?

he came in early and was studying the playbook immediately. He works hard and wants to be prepared, so lets see what he has.

Campbell is the # 2 QB and it will not be that unless he fails in the perseason!

Luxorreb · 03-15-2006, 05:26 AM

I always thought that Ramsey would do well following in the footsteps of Favre in GB.
But with a new regime and Favre perhaps gone as well I wouldn't wish anyone that route. If Ramsey leaves I just hope we get value for him.
QB 1 Brunell 2 Campbell 3 Collins

Paintrain · 03-15-2006, 08:16 AM

I think Brunell starts the season but Campbell has a chance at finishing it.. I don't listen to the mediots who say Campbell isn't ready.. They surely haven't been in practices, in the film room, in meetings so they have no way of telling.. I'd be suprised if Campbell doesn't start at least one preseason game and get significant time with the starters in another.. Collins is strictly an insurance policy/another knowledgeable voice for Campbell/Brunell about the offense.. I'll be glad when we can put the Ramsey stuff to bed once and for all..

MTK · 03-15-2006, 09:17 AM

We'll open the season like this:

1. Brunell
2. Campbell
3. Collins

Whether we'll close the season like that is the question.

freddyg12 · 03-15-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

We'll open the season like this:

1. Brunell
2. Campbell
3. Collins

Whether we'll close the season like that is the question.

I agree 100%. Barring injury of course. I can't see Gibbs goin to Campbell to start the season, but as we've seen these last couple years, Brunell's health is an issue over the course of 16 games.

aussieskin · 03-15-2006, 09:55 AM

Joe Gibbs likes to raise his QBs over a long time, the longer the better, Jason will be #3 next season, he will continue to learn by observing, hopefully if we get a game that will be a blowout Jason will get some snaps to see where he is at in his training.

scowan · 03-15-2006, 09:59 AM

Guys, I will try to find the link, but I read something online yesterday about the Todd Collins signing that his agent stated that the team informed Collins that he would be the number 2 guy going into the season. Of course that could all change after the Preseason next August. Collins being the #2 is most probably based on him knowning the offense better than Campbell at this point.

MTK · 03-15-2006, 10:13 AM

As of right now Collins probably is the #2, but that will change with a strong camp by Campbell. If Campbell can't beat out Collins on the depth chart we might have a problem on our hands.

Skins_4_Lyfe · 03-15-2006, 11:13 AM

Brunell will get us to the Super Bowl...if he fails to produce with the talent he's surrounded by then we can start talking about making a change. Until then Brunell is our guy, he's got about one more good season left in the tank.
I also heard during the end of last season that Campbell was having a hard time learning the offense and that he wasn't ready.

SmootSmack · 03-15-2006, 11:29 AM

All you Salary Cap Gurus out there, is Jason Campbell due any kind of bonus for playing as early as 2006 that the Redskins would avoid by not playing him until 2007?

I'm not saying that that's going to decide who will play in '06, I'm just curious.

03-15-2006, 03:10 AM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Who starts at QB? if we can only get a 7th, keep him and open the competition :P who cares. there is no way collins is the #2, and if campbell isn't better than him, why on earth did we watse a #1 on him? he came in early and was studying the playbook immediately. He works hard and wants to be prepared, so lets see what he has.

03-15-2006, 05:26 AM	#7
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 54 Posts: 1,630	Re: Who starts at QB? I always thought that Ramsey would do well following in the footsteps of Favre in GB. But with a new regime and Favre perhaps gone as well I wouldn't wish anyone that route. If Ramsey leaves I just hope we get value for him. QB 1 Brunell 2 Campbell 3 Collins __________________ ^21^

03-15-2006, 08:16 AM	#8
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 55 Posts: 5,006	Re: Who starts at QB? I think Brunell starts the season but Campbell has a chance at finishing it.. I don't listen to the mediots who say Campbell isn't ready.. They surely haven't been in practices, in the film room, in meetings so they have no way of telling.. I'd be suprised if Campbell doesn't start at least one preseason game and get significant time with the starters in another.. Collins is strictly an insurance policy/another knowledgeable voice for Campbell/Brunell about the offense.. I'll be glad when we can put the Ramsey stuff to bed once and for all.. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

03-15-2006, 09:17 AM	#9
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Who starts at QB? We'll open the season like this: 1. Brunell 2. Campbell 3. Collins Whether we'll close the season like that is the question. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-15-2006, 09:55 AM	#11
aussieskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bundaberg Queensland Australia Posts: 4	Re: Who starts at QB? Joe Gibbs likes to raise his QBs over a long time, the longer the better, Jason will be #3 next season, he will continue to learn by observing, hopefully if we get a game that will be a blowout Jason will get some snaps to see where he is at in his training.

03-15-2006, 09:59 AM	#12
scowan The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: KY Age: 57 Posts: 1,559	Re: Who starts at QB? Guys, I will try to find the link, but I read something online yesterday about the Todd Collins signing that his agent stated that the team informed Collins that he would be the number 2 guy going into the season. Of course that could all change after the Preseason next August. Collins being the #2 is most probably based on him knowning the offense better than Campbell at this point.

03-15-2006, 10:13 AM	#13
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Who starts at QB? As of right now Collins probably is the #2, but that will change with a strong camp by Campbell. If Campbell can't beat out Collins on the depth chart we might have a problem on our hands. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-15-2006, 11:13 AM	#14
Skins_4_Lyfe Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Upper Marlboro, MD/Greensboro, NC Age: 38 Posts: 482	Re: Who starts at QB? Brunell will get us to the Super Bowl...if he fails to produce with the talent he's surrounded by then we can start talking about making a change. Until then Brunell is our guy, he's got about one more good season left in the tank. I also heard during the end of last season that Campbell was having a hard time learning the offense and that he wasn't ready. __________________ WARRIOR

03-15-2006, 11:29 AM	#15
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Who starts at QB? All you Salary Cap Gurus out there, is Jason Campbell due any kind of bonus for playing as early as 2006 that the Redskins would avoid by not playing him until 2007? I'm not saying that that's going to decide who will play in '06, I'm just curious. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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