With the #1 Overall Pick, The Redskins Select...

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I'd love to see some footage of Mario Williams. Everyone is talking about him as "can't miss" also. Just haven't seen anything about him, only heard how great he is.

Mario fought off the Goombas and the Koopa Troopa and saved the princess! What more do you want?!

Of course, there is his little "mushroom" addiction we might have to worry about.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

NICE!

I never thought about that but Goomba?!

1. Goomba
57 up, 18 down


An Italian American, and only an Italian America, who has ties with the mafia or any goodfellas. He is in no way a gangster or a mobster himself. He sits down eating only pasta wearing vinyl suits and massive jewelry

[TheMalcolmConnection]

If they were portrayed as the above description, Mario would have had NO problem taking them out.

[redskinsskickazz]

i would trade down and fill our needs at conerback and linebacker

[TheMalcolmConnection]

That's the sensible thing to do, but I think the question is if we HAD to take someone, who would we take?

[dirthogs311]

Maybe we would take Bush and then trade him for another player like a LB or CB, whoever would offer the best player either a draftee or veteran; plus a couple picks. But who would we want??

[That Guy]

here's a quick comparision of combine numbers (since i can't do video here):

Name			Hgt	Wgt	Vert	Reps	40 time	shuttle	3cone	broad jump
Mario Williams		6'7"	295	40.5" 	35	4.70 	4.37	7.21	10'0"
Kamerion Wimbley	6'4"	248	38.5"	24	4.61	4.48	6.98	10'9"
Tamba Hali		6'3"	275	30"	18	4.87	4.31	7.28	8'10"
Mathias Kiwanuka	6'6"	266	32"	17	4.70	4.15	7.29	10"0"
Ray Edwards		6'5"	273	39"	30	4.81	4.59	7.71	9'6"

Manny Lawson		6'6"	241	39.5"	23	4.43	4.21	6.90	10'4"

mario's 4.7 might not seem impressive, but he's doing that at 300lbs... the fastest OGs and DTs (near 300lbs) run 4.9-5.1. The best day 1 OT/OG/DT runs a 4.95 (eric winston, who also played TE in college). no one else breaks 5.00. There's another ex-TE/project C in chris chester that runs a 4.85 at 300lbs, but he might slip into day two. There just aren't many 300lbs DEs that are fast enough to pass rush, but he can.

The only guys that can outrun him weigh 50lbs less. He outjumps and outlifts anyone though, and is very competitive speed-wise even with the extra weight.

[bigm29]

trade down for more picks in the first round

[jdlea]

Mario Williams or Vernon Davis. I would lean more toward Williams because having been near that media market for part of the season, I can tell you, the kid impressed the hell out of me. I could see the Texans picking him at #1, it wouldn't really surprise me all that much. I think he's THAT good.

On the other hand, we have already addressed the DE position this offseason. Adding Vernon Davis to our lineup would make this O even more dynamic. I think that he is a rare talent as well and he could be as much, if not more, of an impact player than Cooley. It would give Brunell another short range target while the WRs are stretching the field.

All that said, I'm really glad the Skins don't have the #1 overall pick. That would just be really stressful to try to decide who to take.

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Mario Williams. I love Ferguson, but Samuels and Jansen still have enough years left that we don't need to go after him. I'm not sold on Hawk (think Andy Katzenmoyer) but that's probably just because I'm biased against OSU.

I'm not sold on Bush yet. I think he's a product of an amazing offense. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bush's career track Peter Warrick's. Tons of hype, he's the next great thing guaranteed, he was dominant in college, etc, etc, etc. In fact, I think Deangelo Williams will be a better NFL RB than Bush.

Oh, and if trading down were an option, I'd trade down and take Jay Cutler......but that's probably because I've always hated the Campbell pick.

[That Guy]

4/5 best DL guys are over 30, 4/5 of our best receivers are under 29.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by That Guy

4/5 best DL guys are over 30, 4/5 of our best receivers are under 29.

I think it's pretty obvious that our D is older than our O. However, I'd like to see what happens with Andre Carter. I think spending 70 million on 2 DE's who are still relatively unproven in the NFL could come back to bite us. That's the main reason I would lean toward Davis.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I think it's pretty obvious that our D is older than our O. However, I'd like to see what happens with Andre Carter. I think spending 70 million on 2 DE's who are still relatively unproven in the NFL could come back to bite us. That's the main reason I would lean toward Davis.

70$mill on DEs is somehow different from $107mill on unproven WRs?

moss worked out, how about patten, El, and lloyd (who i'm projecting to get another 30mill deal)? knocking mario as unproven and then calling davis unstoppable is kinda ironic

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by That Guy

70$mill on DEs is somehow different from $107mill on unproven WRs?

moss worked out, how about patten, El, and lloyd (who i'm projecting to get another 30mill deal)? knocking mario as unproven and then calling davis unstoppable is kinda ironic

I never called him unstoppable, for one. I said he impressed me and I think he's worthy of the top pick, if you're a team that needs a DE. Like, for example, the Texans. I think Washington addressed their DE issues already.

That said, he is unproven. He hasn't done anything in the NFL yet, he could get shut down for all anyone knows. I'd be willing to bet that he won't, but I've been wrong before.

However, it's my opinion that we should go after a TE because the O still needs to catch up to the D. Also, I don't ever remember talking about being comfortable with the money we spent on our WR's.

[Dirtbag59]

I'd take Heath Schuler