And the idiot of the year award goes to............

Dirtbag59 · 05-01-2006, 01:23 PM

Former Redskins and current Teaxans GM Charlie Casserly.

We all remember Charlie Casserly for how he built the mighty Redskins dynasty of the 90's with marque franchise players like Heath Schuler and Michael Westbrook.

Now Casserly is helping the Texans establish the same type of dominance that he built with the Redskins throughout the 90's. Let it be told that Ralph Wilson almost took the award but with passing up on Reggie Bush considering all the money he would have brought and the games he would have won we had to give the award to good old Charlie.

I mean lets look at the other succesful D-Lineman selected first overall. Future Hall-of-Famers like Dan Wilkinson, Courtney Brown, Steve Emtman, and Russell Maryland.

Congrads Charlie...You earned it.

Dirtbag59 · 05-01-2006, 01:27 PM

I now know why there are steals in the draft, b/c GM's fall in love with prospects and reach for them and then claim their an authority on picking players. The reason theres so many 1st round busts is not b/c prospects are misevaluated, but because guys like Jason Babin are reached for in the first round. Then guys like Jason Witten and Lofa Tatupu fall to the second and third round and are considered steals. These guys really drive me crazy.

SmootSmack · 05-01-2006, 01:34 PM

I thought this was a thread about ST21....zing!

Skins_4_Lyfe · 05-01-2006, 01:38 PM

Has he been fired yet...
I actually thought Westbrook was a good pick if he could have stayed out of rehab and off of Stephen Davis, he was the best WR coming out in 95

RedskinPete · 05-01-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skins_4_Lyfe

Has he been fired yet...
I actually thought Westbrook was a good pick if he could have stayed out of rehab and off of Stephen Davis, he was the best WR coming out in 95

What keeps coming back to me now and again about Wesbrook is that pass Johnson under threw to him in that Play-off game against TB! Everbody looks at the kick that never was. The big play was a bad pass that may have been a TD and would have gotten the team in a place to kick a short FG. Theat could have been that Super Bowl that got away!

Riggo44 · 05-01-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I thought this was a thread about ST21....zing!

You read my mind.

Daseal · 05-01-2006, 01:54 PM

I don't think it's fair to call him an idiot. While I'm not high on Reggie Bush, I can see his appeal for many teams. And let's look at the facts, in the era of the salary cap you have to be carefull with #1 overall picks, because they demand a lot of money and you need to keep from handcuffing yourself. They offered a 6 year 54Mil deal to both players, Reggie Bush turned it down, Williams took it. This means that they PROBABLY wouldn't of had a contract done with Bush when they drafted him, and Williams will be in camp from day one. Which in my opinion, is just huge.

Yeah, the Texans might have drafted a Courtney Brown, but they might have also drafted a Bruce Smith. If you go through a list of #1 overall picks, about 3/4 seem to have done nothing in this league. So really it's a crap shoot anyways.

Lets wait a little while before crucifying the guy.

cpayne5 · 05-01-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I don't think it's fair to call him an idiot. While I'm not high on Reggie Bush, I can see his appeal for many teams. And let's look at the facts, in the era of the salary cap you have to be carefull with #1 overall picks, because they demand a lot of money and you need to keep from handcuffing yourself. They offered a 6 year 54Mil deal to both players, Reggie Bush turned it down, Williams took it. This means that they PROBABLY wouldn't of had a contract done with Bush when they drafted him, and Williams will be in camp from day one. Which in my opinion, is just huge.

Yeah, the Texans might have drafted a Courtney Brown, but they might have also drafted a Bruce Smith. If you go through a list of #1 overall picks, about 3/4 seem to have done nothing in this league. So really it's a crap shoot anyways.

Lets wait a little while before crucifying the guy.

I agree.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 05-01-2006, 02:04 PM

Personally I agree with the Texans's choice here. They don't need a RB, they need defensive playmakers. Bush is a part-time situational player in the NFL in my opinion. Williams will be in on every defensive play and instantly makes the Texans defensive line better. Maybe they should have traded down a spot or two......that I'll concede, but I think they made the right move here. Of course, I've never been sold on Bush translating to the NFL, so to me, Williams was the better prospect between the two without even considering the Texans's needs.

If I give an award for the dumbest move, I give it to the Saints. With Duece McAllister in the backfield already, and a significant need for a OT, I think they were foolish to get caught up in all the Bush-hype. A trade down with the Jets and then taking Ferguson would have been a better move in my opinion.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-01-2006, 02:06 PM

Yeah, I agree with the choice too. Even though I still say they should have traded down, they might not have found a partner (except maybe the Jets).

BrudLee · 05-01-2006, 02:12 PM

Ah, well...

I'll just have to be dumber next year.

Maybe I'll start the April Fool's joke in February...

Phinehas · 05-01-2006, 02:15 PM

I thought the pick showed intelligence and restraint. I think too many fans and commentators get caught up in the celebrity of different players and mistake it for value. For me, I'd rather pass on the stars and find those hard-working, gutsy, good-in-the-trenches kind of guys. Not to say that Bush doesn't have talent, but I think Casserly made a wise choice here. (No comment on the wisdom of the Westbrook choice.)

--Phin

dmek25 · 05-01-2006, 02:20 PM

people,repeat after me,the texans do not need reggie bush.their defense was horrible last year and they probably should have traded down and got dbrickashaw ferguson because nearly got killed last year

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-01-2006, 02:22 PM

On a side note, did everyone enjoy the collective blowfest of the top three picks? During the WHOLE draft, all we got to see was footage of Bush, Williams and Brick.

TheMalcolmConnection · 05-01-2006, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

people,repeat after me,the texans do not need reggie bush.their defense was horrible last year and they probably should have traded down and got dbrickashaw ferguson because nearly got killed last year

A trade with them and the Jets should have been orchestrated. The Jets needed Bush, they needed Brick.

05-01-2006, 01:27 PM	#2
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ I now know why there are steals in the draft, b/c GM's fall in love with prospects and reach for them and then claim their an authority on picking players. The reason theres so many 1st round busts is not b/c prospects are misevaluated, but because guys like Jason Babin are reached for in the first round. Then guys like Jason Witten and Lofa Tatupu fall to the second and third round and are considered steals. These guys really drive me crazy. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

05-01-2006, 01:34 PM	#3
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05-01-2006, 01:54 PM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ I don't think it's fair to call him an idiot. While I'm not high on Reggie Bush, I can see his appeal for many teams. And let's look at the facts, in the era of the salary cap you have to be carefull with #1 overall picks, because they demand a lot of money and you need to keep from handcuffing yourself. They offered a 6 year 54Mil deal to both players, Reggie Bush turned it down, Williams took it. This means that they PROBABLY wouldn't of had a contract done with Bush when they drafted him, and Williams will be in camp from day one. Which in my opinion, is just huge. Yeah, the Texans might have drafted a Courtney Brown, but they might have also drafted a Bruce Smith. If you go through a list of #1 overall picks, about 3/4 seem to have done nothing in this league. So really it's a crap shoot anyways. Lets wait a little while before crucifying the guy. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

05-01-2006, 02:04 PM	#9
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 48 Posts: 1,340	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ Personally I agree with the Texans's choice here. They don't need a RB, they need defensive playmakers. Bush is a part-time situational player in the NFL in my opinion. Williams will be in on every defensive play and instantly makes the Texans defensive line better. Maybe they should have traded down a spot or two......that I'll concede, but I think they made the right move here. Of course, I've never been sold on Bush translating to the NFL, so to me, Williams was the better prospect between the two without even considering the Texans's needs. If I give an award for the dumbest move, I give it to the Saints. With Duece McAllister in the backfield already, and a significant need for a OT, I think they were foolish to get caught up in all the Bush-hype. A trade down with the Jets and then taking Ferguson would have been a better move in my opinion. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

05-01-2006, 01:23 PM	#1
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	And the idiot of the year award goes to............ Former Redskins and current Teaxans GM Charlie Casserly. We all remember Charlie Casserly for how he built the mighty Redskins dynasty of the 90's with marque franchise players like Heath Schuler and Michael Westbrook. Now Casserly is helping the Texans establish the same type of dominance that he built with the Redskins throughout the 90's. Let it be told that Ralph Wilson almost took the award but with passing up on Reggie Bush considering all the money he would have brought and the games he would have won we had to give the award to good old Charlie. I mean lets look at the other succesful D-Lineman selected first overall. Future Hall-of-Famers like Dan Wilkinson, Courtney Brown, Steve Emtman, and Russell Maryland. Congrads Charlie...You earned it. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

05-01-2006, 02:06 PM	#10
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ Yeah, I agree with the choice too. Even though I still say they should have traded down, they might not have found a partner (except maybe the Jets). __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

05-01-2006, 02:12 PM	#11
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ Ah, well... I'll just have to be dumber next year. Maybe I'll start the April Fool's joke in February... __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

05-01-2006, 02:15 PM	#12
Phinehas Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 106	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ I thought the pick showed intelligence and restraint. I think too many fans and commentators get caught up in the celebrity of different players and mistake it for value. For me, I'd rather pass on the stars and find those hard-working, gutsy, good-in-the-trenches kind of guys. Not to say that Bush doesn't have talent, but I think Casserly made a wise choice here. (No comment on the wisdom of the Westbrook choice.) --Phin

05-01-2006, 02:20 PM	#13
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ people,repeat after me,the texans do not need reggie bush.their defense was horrible last year and they probably should have traded down and got dbrickashaw ferguson because nearly got killed last year __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-01-2006, 02:22 PM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: And the idiot of the year award goes to............ On a side note, did everyone enjoy the collective blowfest of the top three picks? During the WHOLE draft, all we got to see was footage of Bush, Williams and Brick. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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