Best blockers: Football Scientist

saden1 · 06-20-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

I still think they are overrated and dont play with heart or passion. I will take thomas and jansen over those guys any day of the week and twice on sunday...

A lot of skins fans don't know or appreciate what they have in Samuels. He was selected to the pro-bowl and he wasn't selected because of name recognition, he was selected because coaches and players thought he was very good.

All I really have to say is I'm glad we have the linesmen we have.

PWNED · 06-20-2006, 04:20 PM

seriously you cant rip of samuels. he hardly gave up any sacks last year. just like an article once said, when it happens, its news.

BigSKINBauer · 06-20-2006, 04:21 PM

That is why we have a top 3 line in the NFL. THomas is the best player on this offense in my opinion and we can see we have powerhouses to compliment him on the line. Rabach is our 'worst' player on the line but that is no problem because he is still beast(except when you are in the closing minutes of a game against the chargers. When that happens he justs starts being stupid). Doc deserves some respect. last year he was belittled pre-season like none other. He stepped up and so did the rest of the line. It is amazing that he does his job 91% of the time and samuels is doing it 95% of the time. That means 86% of the time the left side of our line is 'successful'. That is fenominal. The right side of our line isn't going to fall either having thomas and jansen. This line is absolutely amazing and we can thank bugel for that. We can see our players develop in thomas and Doc and that is because of bugez. Great job to him.

BigSKINBauer · 06-20-2006, 04:29 PM

It may seem like Doc is no longer a penalty maker but he really is. He has had more holding calls last year than the previous two years combined. His false starts went down by 75% though.

I like this site for o-line stats http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...6417&Submit=Go

He dropped in sacks allowed also.

BigSKINBauer · 06-20-2006, 04:34 PM

Here is links to all of them

Samuels
Doc
Rabach
Thomas -- like I said, best player on this offense
Jansen

saden1 · 06-20-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

Here is links to all of them

Samuels
Doc
Rabach
Thomas -- like I said, best player on this offense
Jansen

Sorry buddy but that's not a fair comparison, especially since Samuels and Jansen go up against ferocious DE.

BigSKINBauer · 06-20-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Sorry buddy but that's not a fair comparison, especially since Samuels and Jansen go up against ferocious DE.

Obviously. I am not comparing them. That is why I put up the list of stats of others top players at their positions and compared them.
I put up this entire post comparing positions---

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OK, the numbers mean nothing alone so here are the stats of pro bowlers

Samuels and Jansen compared to

Walter Jones Sea
Orlando Pace STL
Willie Anderson CIN
Jonathan Ogden BAL

Dock and Thomas compared to
Larry Allen DAL ASS
Steve Hutchinson SEA
Alan Faneca PIT
Will Shields KC

Rabach compared to
Jeff Saturday IND
Lecharles Bentley NO
Olin Kreutz CHI

Still Thomas is the best player on this line and offense. He is perfection. Few sacks and no penalties. He roles out and makes the block. He is perfect for this system and our O play went down IMMENSELY after he got hurt. The offensive disappearing act at the eagles, bucs, and seahawks was due to his absence.

GTripp0012 · 06-20-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

The offensive disappearing act at the eagles, bucs, and seahawks was due to his absence.

Seems logical doesn't it. Take away our bread and butter and leave us with a wing and a prayer.

BigSKINBauer · 06-20-2006, 04:46 PM

OK, the numbers mean nothing alone so here are the stats of pro bowlers

Samuels and Jansen compared to

Walter Jones Sea
Orlando Pace STL
Willie Anderson CIN
Jonathan Ogden BAL

Dock and Thomas compared to
Larry Allen DAL ASS
Steve Hutchinson SEA
Alan Faneca PIT
Will Shields KC

Rabach compared to
Jeff Saturday IND
Lecharles Bentley NO
Olin Kreutz CHI

mheisig · 06-20-2006, 04:54 PM

Good stats, BSB. You're right, Thomas really does stand out - his play is almost flawless, even though the other guys are pretty good.

That Guy · 06-20-2006, 05:08 PM

this is for RUN blocking. dockery is still #5 on our OL.

That Guy · 06-20-2006, 05:13 PM

wow, hutch is pretty good

thomas too. clearly our #1.

MightyJoeGibbs · 06-21-2006, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

A good block is a successful block

I'm not going to post the entire article since it's an ESPN Insider article, but just to sum it up KC Joyner rated out the best blockers in the league using a few different categories and he came up with what he calls the blocking success percentage, or one way to rate the general success/failure of each block. Here's how the best rated according to his blocking percentage system:

1. C. Samuels Washington 94.8%
2. S. Locklear Seattle 94.4
3. K. Barry Green Bay 94.2
4. C. Villarrial Buffalo 91.8
5. B. Hamilton Denver 91.6
6. D. Dockery Washington 91.1
7. J. Peters Buffalo 90.9
8. R. Brown Chicago 90.8
9. V. Riley Houston 90.5
10. B. Olson Tennessee 90.2

This is falsified. Samuels yes good, however I think Jansen is better. How is he left outta the mix. I pray Dockery is as good as this % report. B/C I have my doubts with Dockery/Rabach. Though Rabach is solid Im not a full believer for some reason.

saden1 · 06-21-2006, 02:50 AM

Can anyone tell me why the hell are we comparing our players? Is this a case of a solution in search of a problem?

Redskins8588 · 06-21-2006, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Can anyone tell me why the hell are we comparing our players? Is this a case of a solution in search of a problem?

The offseason can me people do and say crazy things...

06-20-2006, 04:20 PM	#2
PWNED The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ZOMGZZZ!!111 Age: 34 Posts: 1,160	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist seriously you cant rip of samuels. he hardly gave up any sacks last year. just like an article once said, when it happens, its news. __________________ 143 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal.

06-20-2006, 04:21 PM	#3
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist That is why we have a top 3 line in the NFL. THomas is the best player on this offense in my opinion and we can see we have powerhouses to compliment him on the line. Rabach is our 'worst' player on the line but that is no problem because he is still beast(except when you are in the closing minutes of a game against the chargers. When that happens he justs starts being stupid). Doc deserves some respect. last year he was belittled pre-season like none other. He stepped up and so did the rest of the line. It is amazing that he does his job 91% of the time and samuels is doing it 95% of the time. That means 86% of the time the left side of our line is 'successful'. That is fenominal. The right side of our line isn't going to fall either having thomas and jansen. This line is absolutely amazing and we can thank bugel for that. We can see our players develop in thomas and Doc and that is because of bugez. Great job to him.

06-20-2006, 04:29 PM	#4
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist It may seem like Doc is no longer a penalty maker but he really is. He has had more holding calls last year than the previous two years combined. His false starts went down by 75% though. I like this site for o-line stats http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/...6417&Submit=Go He dropped in sacks allowed also.

06-20-2006, 04:46 PM	#9
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist OK, the numbers mean nothing alone so here are the stats of pro bowlers Samuels and Jansen compared to Walter Jones Sea Orlando Pace STL Willie Anderson CIN Jonathan Ogden BAL Dock and Thomas compared to Larry Allen DAL ASS Steve Hutchinson SEA Alan Faneca PIT Will Shields KC Rabach compared to Jeff Saturday IND Lecharles Bentley NO Olin Kreutz CHI

06-20-2006, 04:54 PM	#10
mheisig The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Southeast Age: 42 Posts: 2,119	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist Good stats, BSB. You're right, Thomas really does stand out - his play is almost flawless, even though the other guys are pretty good. __________________ Your post count, reputation score, popularity ranking, VIP tag or funny signature has no bearing on how I value you as an individual.

06-20-2006, 04:34 PM	#5
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 38 Posts: 5,688	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist Here is links to all of them Samuels Doc Rabach Thomas -- like I said, best player on this offense Jansen

06-20-2006, 05:08 PM	#11
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist this is for RUN blocking. dockery is still #5 on our OL.

06-20-2006, 05:13 PM	#12
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist wow, hutch is pretty good thomas too. clearly our #1.

06-21-2006, 02:50 AM	#14
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 46 Posts: 10,069	Re: Best blockers: Football Scientist Can anyone tell me why the hell are we comparing our players? Is this a case of a solution in search of a problem? __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

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