Dan Snyder is going to make his move.

Dana87 · 07-23-2004, 10:51 PM

I am all in favor of sending a 1st round pick to Miami for Ogunleye, but sending Samuals would be a major mistake. Steve Spurrier's shotty protection scheme made all of our linemen look bad. Before Spurrier Samuals was a stud and after Spurrier he will be a stud again. If the Redskins are thinking of trading a player look for them to trade a position where they have alot of depth like WR. That also happens to be one of Miami's week spots. As far as Snyder telling Ogunleye to hang in there, That sounds a lot like tampering to me, I don't think he would be that stupid.

skinsfanthru&thru · 07-23-2004, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana87

As far as Snyder telling Ogunleye to hang in there, That sounds a lot like tampering to me, I don't think he would be that stupid.

thats the same thing I was thinking. I'd do the trade if its a smart trade cuz this would help provide us with another playmaker on defense and not force Williams to blitz arrington and washington as much. if we aquired Ogun. then we could dump wynn's salary and that'd be a huge upgrade in my opinion. But with next years crop of de's coming from college I'm a bit on the edge about this cuz as I've stated in other threads before, Chris Canty of UVA is gonna be a monster who might slip to our selection in the mid to early 20s in the first round. Personally I'd rather see a guy be brought into the league as a skin than having traded for a new skin, but if the talents there to fix a hole on the team then it might be worth the move to plug said hole.

MTK · 07-23-2004, 11:35 PM

Argh I hate PFT, total garbage site.

Gmanc711 · 07-24-2004, 12:18 AM

If we do make a trade for Ogunlyeye, it has to be draft picks. No question about it. I mean, we would HAVE to use our first rounder next year on a Defensive Linmen. We would just have to. We have no other area of dire need.

Our dline, should be ok next year, but nothing more than ok. Even when they have a good game, they will proboly be nothing more than solid. The way I see it, a first rounder for Ogunleye would just be like making our first round draft pick a little early.

bedlamVR · 07-24-2004, 05:12 AM

I am not so sure AO is worth a first round pick but I can imagine that is what is on offer. I can only think of one notable player we have traded in Champ and we had not much choice also if the site is right Snyder has been very close to tampering and given what happened last year with Milloy I cannot see the front office going down this road again.

SKINSnCANES · 07-24-2004, 03:46 PM

think about this guys. We have no one on our line that deserves a double team. If we have Wale and he gets double teamed that opens us up to a lot of other options. Whose goign to pick up lavar blocking weakside now if they have to double him?!? weve got great linebackers and Griffin and Daniels are solid players. I think a solid end will be key to us taking that next step this year. I want us to give up our first though, not samuels. If we get rid of sameuls that leaves us with possibly a rookie and dockerys on teh right side...which doesnt look to promising, I dont care who our oline coach is thats not great protection.

Anyone know if Madden has already been produced? or is there a chance if we make this trade soon that they could update the rosters?

Hogskin · 07-24-2004, 04:34 PM

Well said, Canes. I would like to see if Samuels can get back to his form of 3 years ago with good coaching. But I really think it will take more than a first round pick. Probably that pick and a much lesser player than Samuels.

BrudLee · 07-24-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Anyone know if Madden has already been produced? or is there a chance if we make this trade soon that they could update the rosters?

They are pretty good about roster updates. It's one of the main reasons Madden kicks all forms of ass.

NFLNetwork · 07-24-2004, 11:31 PM

No...Madden starts mass production around mid July, but it will be on the updated roster in late August, IF...he were traded.

SKINSnCANES · 07-25-2004, 02:17 AM

How does that work, how would i get my roster to be updated on my game? How could I dl something to my playstation, I guess you have to have your ps2 online? If any of you hvae done this can you fill me in on how it works, thanks.

IowaSkinsFan · 07-25-2004, 05:04 AM

So now with Williams retiring, think they will be asking for Ladell Betts instead of Samuels?

07-24-2004, 03:46 PM	#6
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	think about this guys. We have no one on our line that deserves a double team. If we have Wale and he gets double teamed that opens us up to a lot of other options. Whose goign to pick up lavar blocking weakside now if they have to double him?!? weve got great linebackers and Griffin and Daniels are solid players. I think a solid end will be key to us taking that next step this year. I want us to give up our first though, not samuels. If we get rid of sameuls that leaves us with possibly a rookie and dockerys on teh right side...which doesnt look to promising, I dont care who our oline coach is thats not great protection. Anyone know if Madden has already been produced? or is there a chance if we make this trade soon that they could update the rosters? __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

07-24-2004, 04:34 PM	#7
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 85 Posts: 659	Well said, Canes. I would like to see if Samuels can get back to his form of 3 years ago with good coaching. But I really think it will take more than a first round pick. Probably that pick and a much lesser player than Samuels. __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

07-25-2004, 02:17 AM	#10
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	How does that work, how would i get my roster to be updated on my game? How could I dl something to my playstation, I guess you have to have your ps2 online? If any of you hvae done this can you fill me in on how it works, thanks. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

07-23-2004, 10:51 PM	#1
Dana87 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Saint Augustine, Florida Age: 65 Posts: 130	I am all in favor of sending a 1st round pick to Miami for Ogunleye, but sending Samuals would be a major mistake. Steve Spurrier's shotty protection scheme made all of our linemen look bad. Before Spurrier Samuals was a stud and after Spurrier he will be a stud again. If the Redskins are thinking of trading a player look for them to trade a position where they have alot of depth like WR. That also happens to be one of Miami's week spots. As far as Snyder telling Ogunleye to hang in there, That sounds a lot like tampering to me, I don't think he would be that stupid.

07-23-2004, 11:35 PM	#3
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,121	Argh I hate PFT, total garbage site.

07-24-2004, 12:18 AM	#4
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	If we do make a trade for Ogunlyeye, it has to be draft picks. No question about it. I mean, we would HAVE to use our first rounder next year on a Defensive Linmen. We would just have to. We have no other area of dire need. Our dline, should be ok next year, but nothing more than ok. Even when they have a good game, they will proboly be nothing more than solid. The way I see it, a first rounder for Ogunleye would just be like making our first round draft pick a little early.

07-24-2004, 05:12 AM	#5
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	I am not so sure AO is worth a first round pick but I can imagine that is what is on offer. I can only think of one notable player we have traded in Champ and we had not much choice also if the site is right Snyder has been very close to tampering and given what happened last year with Milloy I cannot see the front office going down this road again.

07-24-2004, 11:31 PM	#9
NFLNetwork No new threads for you Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 122	No...Madden starts mass production around mid July, but it will be on the updated roster in late August, IF...he were traded.

07-25-2004, 05:04 AM	#11
IowaSkinsFan Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Duh Age: 53 Posts: 49	So now with Williams retiring, think they will be asking for Ladell Betts instead of Samuels?

Dan Snyder is going to make his move.

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