Needs for improvement

EXoffender · 09-12-2006, 11:18 AM

Message to Gibbs: Bring a kicker in today! Not to compete with Hall but, to take over from Hall.

DaveyFoSho · 09-12-2006, 11:19 AM

i dont mind looking at katie holmes all season

DaveyFoSho · 09-12-2006, 11:21 AM

but wow....how do u let brad johnson throw all over u...with wiliamson and travis taylor......i really hate their tight end too...

Also....what was with that call on taylor..."hitting a defenseless receiver"...then like what 10 plays later a ball sails over our receivers head and he gets drilled from behind...AWESOME!

Sammy Baugh Fan · 09-12-2006, 11:21 AM

I blame 90,000 "Polyester" American Flags....."Made in China"!

Yeah, Tom Cruise in the box was a kiss of death as soon as I saw it.

peace

DaveyFoSho · 09-12-2006, 11:22 AM

and yes get Hall the hell out of there!

DaveyFoSho · 09-12-2006, 11:36 AM

YEA! and Golston had a really nice play in the backfield!!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-12-2006, 08:17 PM

I wonder if Carlos Rogers' struggles were in any way related to Troy Williamson's blazing speed. I'd be more comfortable with that answer than with a mental lapse.

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-12-2006, 08:23 PM

where is nick novak now? I think there needs to be some sort of kicking competition. John Hall doesnt even kickoff anymore and if you cant make a 48 yard field you got to go. NFL= not for long. I wish gibbs would adopt that policy. If I am not mistaking didnt the skins cut antonio brown last season after a fumble on opening day? the same should apply to hall and especially after seeing him on comcast after the game saying it was all his fault and he will shoulder the blame. We need to have some accountablity. cut john hall now...

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-12-2006, 08:24 PM

one more final thought and then i will be done talking about last night. You wont win many games if you get into the redzone and score 1 td and 3 fgs. The play calling in the red zone was ridiculous...inside the 5 and we dont see tj duckett? what was saunders thinking?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-12-2006, 08:27 PM

I respectfully have to disagree with cutting Hall, at least until I get more information. Hall used to be clutch in those long distance FGs. Assuming Hall gets healthy, he'll be better than anything else on the street. I just pray he's expected to get healthy, as it's been 2 years now.

I can't imagine why Gibbs et al would keep him around unless there was some expectation that he would get healthy.

vaoutlaws2006 · 09-12-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I respectfully have to disagree with cutting Hall, at least until I get more information. Hall used to be clutch in those long distance FGs. Assuming Hall gets healthy, he'll be better than anything else on the street. I just pray he's expected to get healthy, as it's been 2 years now.

I can't imagine why Gibbs et al would keep him around unless there was some expectation that he would get healthy.

the key word in your post "USED"....suggesting in the past he was a clutch kicker. thats the thing in the "PAST" he was clutch. NOT NOW. I gotta disagree in case you forgot i think novak won the game for us last year against the seahawks during the regular season. Its been two years of injuries and inconsistencies its time to move on and bring in a few kickers and lets a have an open competition. which we should have done in the preseason.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-12-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaoutlaws2006

the key word in your post "USED"....suggesting in the past he was a clutch kicker. thats the thing in the "PAST" he was clutch. NOT NOW. I gotta disagree in case you forgot i think novak won the game for us last year against the seahawks during the regular season. Its been two years of injuries and inconsistencies its time to move on and bring in a few kickers and lets a have an open competition. which we should have done in the preseason.

I certainly see why you have your opinion. I just have to believe that Gibbs would not have kept him if he didn't think he would recover soon. Novak's gone and Hall is here and Gibbs isn't crazy, so there has to be a reason. I guess I am just going on blind faith.

Twilbert07 · 09-12-2006, 09:05 PM

My question is: How many more games will Hall cost us the chance for a win or a tie. He showed last night that his range is 27 yards. He barely made one of those short, short FGs. And the fact he didn't know what down it was and wasn't ready to come on the field for the game-tying kick tells me he's not prepared to do the one thing he gets paid a lot of money to do: Kick field goals. We all made fun of Vanderjagt. We should look at Hall, too.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 09-12-2006, 09:08 PM

Special teams is always that forgotten unit that makes such a big difference in games. Given that most games are decided by a FG or two, it is incredibly surprising that kickers aren't paid more.

That Guy · 09-12-2006, 09:42 PM

carlos is probably just more of a ronde type zone/cover 2 corner :/
his speed didn't seem to match up very well.

I don't think it was horrible, but the skins were sloppy and it looked like the offensive playcalling was just a random grab bag instead of a scheme (which is what the vikings were running).

not addressing kicker/punter and leaving 15 points on the field is fairly unforgiveable though. everyone here knew our kickers sucked last year and they did nothing, even with vinetari and longwell on the market, and zastidul in FA with koch in the draft at punter (which, while not game breakers, are at least competent).

09-12-2006, 11:18 AM	#1
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Needs for improvement Message to Gibbs: Bring a kicker in today! Not to compete with Hall but, to take over from Hall.

09-12-2006, 11:19 AM	#2
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 40 Posts: 304	Re: Needs for improvement i dont mind looking at katie holmes all season __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-12-2006, 11:21 AM	#3
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 40 Posts: 304	Re: Needs for improvement but wow....how do u let brad johnson throw all over u...with wiliamson and travis taylor......i really hate their tight end too... Also....what was with that call on taylor..."hitting a defenseless receiver"...then like what 10 plays later a ball sails over our receivers head and he gets drilled from behind...AWESOME! __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-12-2006, 11:21 AM	#4
Sammy Baugh Fan Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Northern Virginia, Woodbridge Age: 64 Posts: 2,507	Re: Needs for improvement I blame 90,000 "Polyester" American Flags....."Made in China"! Yeah, Tom Cruise in the box was a kiss of death as soon as I saw it. peace __________________ Check out Mike Hedrick - The Next Food Network Star. Please Click and give me a Thumbs Up and Positive Comment. Thanks

09-12-2006, 11:22 AM	#5
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 40 Posts: 304	Re: Needs for improvement and yes get Hall the hell out of there! __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-12-2006, 11:36 AM	#6
DaveyFoSho Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Potomac, MD Age: 40 Posts: 304	Re: Needs for improvement YEA! and Golston had a really nice play in the backfield!! __________________ DaveyFoSho

09-12-2006, 08:17 PM	#7
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Needs for improvement I wonder if Carlos Rogers' struggles were in any way related to Troy Williamson's blazing speed. I'd be more comfortable with that answer than with a mental lapse.

09-12-2006, 08:23 PM	#8
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 54 Posts: 806	Re: Needs for improvement where is nick novak now? I think there needs to be some sort of kicking competition. John Hall doesnt even kickoff anymore and if you cant make a 48 yard field you got to go. NFL= not for long. I wish gibbs would adopt that policy. If I am not mistaking didnt the skins cut antonio brown last season after a fumble on opening day? the same should apply to hall and especially after seeing him on comcast after the game saying it was all his fault and he will shoulder the blame. We need to have some accountablity. cut john hall now... __________________ The future is obviously right now!

09-12-2006, 08:24 PM	#9
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 54 Posts: 806	Re: Needs for improvement one more final thought and then i will be done talking about last night. You wont win many games if you get into the redzone and score 1 td and 3 fgs. The play calling in the red zone was ridiculous...inside the 5 and we dont see tj duckett? what was saunders thinking? __________________ The future is obviously right now!

09-12-2006, 08:27 PM	#10
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Needs for improvement I respectfully have to disagree with cutting Hall, at least until I get more information. Hall used to be clutch in those long distance FGs. Assuming Hall gets healthy, he'll be better than anything else on the street. I just pray he's expected to get healthy, as it's been 2 years now. I can't imagine why Gibbs et al would keep him around unless there was some expectation that he would get healthy.

09-12-2006, 09:05 PM	#13
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 61 Posts: 594	Re: Needs for improvement My question is: How many more games will Hall cost us the chance for a win or a tie. He showed last night that his range is 27 yards. He barely made one of those short, short FGs. And the fact he didn't know what down it was and wasn't ready to come on the field for the game-tying kick tells me he's not prepared to do the one thing he gets paid a lot of money to do: Kick field goals. We all made fun of Vanderjagt. We should look at Hall, too. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

09-12-2006, 09:08 PM	#14
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Needs for improvement Special teams is always that forgotten unit that makes such a big difference in games. Given that most games are decided by a FG or two, it is incredibly surprising that kickers aren't paid more.

09-12-2006, 09:42 PM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Needs for improvement carlos is probably just more of a ronde type zone/cover 2 corner :/ his speed didn't seem to match up very well. I don't think it was horrible, but the skins were sloppy and it looked like the offensive playcalling was just a random grab bag instead of a scheme (which is what the vikings were running). not addressing kicker/punter and leaving 15 points on the field is fairly unforgiveable though. everyone here knew our kickers sucked last year and they did nothing, even with vinetari and longwell on the market, and zastidul in FA with koch in the draft at punter (which, while not game breakers, are at least competent).

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