Shawn Springs

hurrykaine · 10-03-2006, 11:32 AM

In all likelihood, the secondary will get torched by the Giants, yet again. I just hope our offense can put up some points to keep us in the game.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by hurrykaine

In all likelihood, the secondary will get torched by the Giants, yet again. I just hope our offense can put up some points to keep us in the game.

Gibbs and Williams are fully aware that the Giants will try to do JUST that. So the game plan will be set up to not allow it. Let's hope it works.

hurrykaine · 10-03-2006, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

Gibbs and Williams are fully aware that the Giants will try to do JUST that. So the game plan will be set up to not allow it. Let's hope it works.

Well, the best game plan would be to run a ball control - run first - dink and dump pass - clock eating offense and keep Manning off the field. I can't see us win a shootout at the Meadowlands, though if we did, it'd rock!

To your point, hopefully, the return of Salave'a will bolster the pass rush and get some pressure on Manning. Hit Shockey and Plax (both playing with injuries) early and often.

MTK · 10-03-2006, 11:49 AM

The Giants are 29th in the league in pass D, I would expect we'll look to exploit them there.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

The Giants are 29th in the league in pass D, I would expect we'll look to exploit them there.

REALLY??? Ohhhhh, I did not know. I feel better already!!!

That Guy · 10-03-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hesscl34

REALLY??? Ohhhhh, I did not know. I feel better already!!!

they gave up:
28 to the iggles (super pass heavy)
42 to the seahawks (pass happy)

so... I like our chancess.

Stacks42 · 10-03-2006, 12:25 PM

I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1.

Have you ever pulled a groin? The man had his reattached!!! That is no simple thing to recover from.... He tried to come back early and strained it again. He has a TON of heart. You should be ashamed of yourself for thinking differently

Skins_4_Lyfe · 10-03-2006, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1.

I don't know where to start with this one...Springs will hurt the team more if he suits up and isn't 100%...he is...I can't even get out all my thoughts, I'm too pissed to make any since...I don't believe what I've just read...

tjmorgan · 10-03-2006, 02:08 PM

No doubt we need help in the secondary. Rogers has to step up his play, and we have to keep getting a better pass rush on. If Carter and Co. can put some pressure on the QB, that will certainly help our secondary until Springs is back.

12thMan · 10-03-2006, 12:39 PM

Stack, you can't be serious. Springs is absolutely a team player. Heart? He re-injured the dang thing trying to come back early. So no, I wouldn't question his heart. In fact, I think Springs is one of the cornerstones (no pun intended) of the team. This is an injury if you're not 100%, no questions asked, you'll be back on IR quick. Ask Donovan McNabb.

Big C · 10-03-2006, 01:02 PM

we deffo need springs back. however, rogers has really stepped it up as of late and kenny wright is doing ok...that being said springs is still our best cb

Stacks42 · 10-03-2006, 01:24 PM

Are you kidding? Look at the facts Springs has only played 3 full seasons in his 10 year NFL career, he is constantly hurt. Champ who is considered one of the elite CBs in the league didnt miss a game for his first 6 seasons, he missed two last year, but has not missed one this year. We knew this when we got springs, there are players who play and there are players who sit on the sidelines. He is a premier CB when he is on the field, but unfortunatley he is not on the field all the time.

hesscl34 · 10-03-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stacks42

Are you kidding? Look at the facts Springs has only played 3 full seasons in his 10 year NFL career, he is constantly hurt. Champ who is considered one of the elite CBs in the league didnt miss a game for his first 6 seasons, he missed two last year, but has not missed one this year. We knew this when we got springs, there are players who play and there are players who sit on the sidelines. He is a premier CB when he is on the field, but unfortunatley he is not on the field all the time.

That is becuase he never had the surgery to fix it. He kept tring to let it heal and then play again. He finally had the surgery. Once he is healthy thigns should stay that way for him.

Mauicruzer · 10-03-2006, 01:26 PM

Has Rodgers really stepped it up? Had to listen to the game on the radio until they the last three minutes.

10-03-2006, 11:49 AM	#4
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Shawn Springs The Giants are 29th in the league in pass D, I would expect we'll look to exploit them there. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-03-2006, 12:25 PM	#7
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 49 Posts: 837	Re: Shawn Springs I think SS is a great player but the one thing I question about him is his heart. If you see your team struggling (which is what the secondary is doing) than you do you best to get back, portis did it and Randy Thomas played the game against the jags with a hamstring injury, it was bad enough that he couldnt pull so they had to run plays where he didnt, but he was in there to get the job done. Gibbs and Co. want players that are team players and that will sacrifice for the team. Apparently he is not one of them, I am not advocating cutting him, he is a great player, but in the off season we need to look for a replacement since he is never healthy and Rogers is not a #1. __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

10-03-2006, 02:08 PM	#10
tjmorgan Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 47	Re: Shawn Springs No doubt we need help in the secondary. Rogers has to step up his play, and we have to keep getting a better pass rush on. If Carter and Co. can put some pressure on the QB, that will certainly help our secondary until Springs is back.

10-03-2006, 12:39 PM	#11
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Shawn Springs Stack, you can't be serious. Springs is absolutely a team player. Heart? He re-injured the dang thing trying to come back early. So no, I wouldn't question his heart. In fact, I think Springs is one of the cornerstones (no pun intended) of the team. This is an injury if you're not 100%, no questions asked, you'll be back on IR quick. Ask Donovan McNabb.

10-03-2006, 01:02 PM	#12
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 40 Posts: 4,453	Re: Shawn Springs we deffo need springs back. however, rogers has really stepped it up as of late and kenny wright is doing ok...that being said springs is still our best cb __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

10-03-2006, 11:32 AM	#1
hurrykaine Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Washington, D.C. Age: 53 Posts: 762	Re: Shawn Springs In all likelihood, the secondary will get torched by the Giants, yet again. I just hope our offense can put up some points to keep us in the game.

10-03-2006, 01:24 PM	#13
Stacks42 Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Arlington Va. Age: 49 Posts: 837	Re: Shawn Springs Are you kidding? Look at the facts Springs has only played 3 full seasons in his 10 year NFL career, he is constantly hurt. Champ who is considered one of the elite CBs in the league didnt miss a game for his first 6 seasons, he missed two last year, but has not missed one this year. We knew this when we got springs, there are players who play and there are players who sit on the sidelines. He is a premier CB when he is on the field, but unfortunatley he is not on the field all the time. __________________ The NEXT special teams coordinator

10-03-2006, 01:26 PM	#15
Mauicruzer Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: maui Posts: 15	Re: Shawn Springs Has Rodgers really stepped it up? Had to listen to the game on the radio until they the last three minutes.

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