Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 10:32 PM

Please tell me that Rocky is going to get some playing time. Warrick Holdman has been beat so many times in coverage, its ridiculous. He missed a bunch of tackles. Last year, we were vulnerable to the big run play on his side, until he was replaced by Arrington. Get him out and put Rocky in!!

joethiesmanfan · 10-09-2006, 10:52 PM

I agree totally. He was the problem last year and I think he is the problem this year. He is just not good at all. I'm glad Lemar is back in the middle. Now Holdman needs to be removed totally out of Redksins Park.

Beemnseven · 10-09-2006, 11:17 PM

Holdman is only one factor in a bevy of factors for this atrocious defense. If we had a defensive line worth a nickel, Holdman, Marshall and Marcus Washington would be making a hell of a lot more noise. Right now, the front four absorbs everything, never gets penetration, and when lined up against an offense committed to running the ball, they'll get run on.

Not only that, the secondary hasn't been able to cover ANYBODY yet. There are fundamental breakdowns all over this defense. Singling out Warrick Holdman is like General George Custer raising hell with a poor marksman at the Battle of Little Big Horn.

Still, I also wonder what the coaches are afraid of at this point by playing Rocky Mac.

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 11:22 PM

I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

MTK · 10-09-2006, 11:31 PM

Let's just bench or cut everyone and call it a season.

There are other guys playing worse than Holdman.

Beemnseven · 10-09-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chris36

I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

Good point. Golston has played, though admittedly, only because Saleve'a has been nicked up -- and since this team continues to ignore the defensive line, Williams had no choice but to play him. Then there's Taylor, so yeah, Williams hasn't shied away from throwing his rookies to the wolves, at least for a play here and there.

What's wrong with McIntosh? Why haven't we seen him yet?

MTK · 10-09-2006, 11:37 PM

With the problems we've had on defense GW probably doesn't want to toss any more rookies or inexperienced guys in there than he has to. Holdman is a vet who's not playing all that bad, not bad enough to warrant being benched that's for sure. Why add to the problems at this point?

illdefined · 10-09-2006, 11:48 PM

can Rocky play corner?

SouperMeister · 10-10-2006, 12:04 AM

Rocky looks like a potential playmaker with his speed and athleticism. Perhaps GW will work him into pass defense packages as he did with Chris Clemons last season.

chris36 · 10-10-2006, 12:14 AM

I was just thinking of Chris and wondering if he could come back now, for those passing situation.

tika49 · 10-10-2006, 01:07 AM

R us freakin kidding me Warrick is terrible maybe you better check your stats , he had 8 tackles in the game I believe just one behind Lemar Marshall you had 9. Many of the redskins defense missed tackles on Sunday. Also Warrick is right up there in the team ranks as far as overall tackles for the year and he does not even plays the entire game he comes out when they run that sorry ass nickle package. Warrick Holdman on defense is the least of our worries dude!

PSUskinsfan11 · 10-10-2006, 02:14 AM

Too bad we didn't take Thomas Howard in the draft instead of Rocky. Howard is a former saftey with great speed and would be much better in coverage. He is starting for the Raiders and it looks like Krik Morrison,Mike Huff, and him are the only thing going for that team on D.

offiss · 10-10-2006, 05:01 AM

Well it's disconsurting to see another draft pick we just had to have can't beat out Warrick Holdman, whether or not Holdman is playing up to par is irrelevant, we gave up picks to get Rocky, if he is incapable of beating Holdman than there is a problem with our ability to evaluate talent.

That Guy · 10-10-2006, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tika49

R us freakin kidding me Warrick is terrible maybe you better check your stats , he had 8 tackles in the game I believe just one behind Lemar Marshall you had 9. Many of the redskins defense missed tackles on Sunday. Also Warrick is right up there in the team ranks as far as overall tackles for the year and he does not even plays the entire game he comes out when they run that sorry ass nickle package. Warrick Holdman on defense is the least of our worries dude!

watch the game, not the stat line. he's not doing so hot. i mean, arch had 10 tackles, but he wasn't exactly a decisive factor in our win over the giants... oh yeah, i forgot, we lost. and gave up 500 yards in doing so.

dmek25 · 10-10-2006, 07:37 AM

its more than holdman. and i sgree with matty. why put a rookie into this diaster? rookies = rookie mistakes

10-09-2006, 10:32 PM	#1
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Please tell me that Rocky is going to get some playing time. Warrick Holdman has been beat so many times in coverage, its ridiculous. He missed a bunch of tackles. Last year, we were vulnerable to the big run play on his side, until he was replaced by Arrington. Get him out and put Rocky in!! Last edited by chris36; 11-04-2006 at 12:14 AM. Reason: Relevance

10-09-2006, 10:52 PM	#2
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage I agree totally. He was the problem last year and I think he is the problem this year. He is just not good at all. I'm glad Lemar is back in the middle. Now Holdman needs to be removed totally out of Redksins Park.

10-09-2006, 11:17 PM	#3
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Holdman is only one factor in a bevy of factors for this atrocious defense. If we had a defensive line worth a nickel, Holdman, Marshall and Marcus Washington would be making a hell of a lot more noise. Right now, the front four absorbs everything, never gets penetration, and when lined up against an offense committed to running the ball, they'll get run on. Not only that, the secondary hasn't been able to cover ANYBODY yet. There are fundamental breakdowns all over this defense. Singling out Warrick Holdman is like General George Custer raising hell with a poor marksman at the Battle of Little Big Horn. Still, I also wonder what the coaches are afraid of at this point by playing Rocky Mac.

10-09-2006, 11:22 PM	#4
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage I think you are right. They seem as if they are not happy with what they have seen. He has hardly played a down, maybe non on defense. Williams odviously will let a rookie play. Look at Golston. He let Taylor play some his first year.

10-09-2006, 11:31 PM	#5
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,581	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Let's just bench or cut everyone and call it a season. There are other guys playing worse than Holdman. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-09-2006, 11:37 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,581	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage With the problems we've had on defense GW probably doesn't want to toss any more rookies or inexperienced guys in there than he has to. Holdman is a vet who's not playing all that bad, not bad enough to warrant being benched that's for sure. Why add to the problems at this point? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-09-2006, 11:48 PM	#8
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage can Rocky play corner? __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-10-2006, 12:04 AM	#9
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 60 Posts: 3,419	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Rocky looks like a potential playmaker with his speed and athleticism. Perhaps GW will work him into pass defense packages as he did with Chris Clemons last season.

10-10-2006, 12:14 AM	#10
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage I was just thinking of Chris and wondering if he could come back now, for those passing situation.

10-10-2006, 01:07 AM	#11
tika49 Camp Scrub Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Texas Age: 49 Posts: 13	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage R us freakin kidding me Warrick is terrible maybe you better check your stats , he had 8 tackles in the game I believe just one behind Lemar Marshall you had 9. Many of the redskins defense missed tackles on Sunday. Also Warrick is right up there in the team ranks as far as overall tackles for the year and he does not even plays the entire game he comes out when they run that sorry ass nickle package. Warrick Holdman on defense is the least of our worries dude!

10-10-2006, 02:14 AM	#12
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Too bad we didn't take Thomas Howard in the draft instead of Rocky. Howard is a former saftey with great speed and would be much better in coverage. He is starting for the Raiders and it looks like Krik Morrison,Mike Huff, and him are the only thing going for that team on D. __________________ R.I.P. ST 21.....never forgotten

10-10-2006, 05:01 AM	#13
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage Well it's disconsurting to see another draft pick we just had to have can't beat out Warrick Holdman, whether or not Holdman is playing up to par is irrelevant, we gave up picks to get Rocky, if he is incapable of beating Holdman than there is a problem with our ability to evaluate talent.

10-10-2006, 07:37 AM	#15
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Bring on Mr. McIntosh, Warrick is Terrible in Coverage its more than holdman. and i sgree with matty. why put a rookie into this diaster? rookies = rookie mistakes __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

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