Offseason plan for 2007

MTK · 10-23-2006, 11:14 AM

Sucks to be talking 2007 in October, but that's the hand we've been dealt. Vote and discuss.

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-23-2006, 11:18 AM

minimal -- consistency/stability is key.

I'd like to have some more restraint in FA this offseason.

Twilbert07 · 10-23-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

minimal -- consistency/stability is key.

I'd like to have some more restraint in FA this offseason.

I voted for minimal changes and agree that we need to lay low this offseason. All the tinkering this past offseason ruined this seaosn. Let's use our first-round draft pick on a cornerback or impact linebacker and watch how Jason Campbell handles life as a starter.

However, I hope we drop our "consistency" because we're consistently bad year after year after year, expect for last season which now is looking more like a fluke.

Gmanc711 · 10-23-2006, 11:32 AM

Minimal...we still have a VERY good core group of players to still build around. I dont really get why its not working this year; but I think if we keep these guys around, JC plays well at QB, we could be alright.

That Guy · 10-23-2006, 11:38 AM

moderate, we need to change out at least 3-4 defensive starters, and QB. the coaching staff needs to be pared down.

T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. · 10-23-2006, 11:48 AM

moderate. wanted to say minimal (stability would be so nice) but Campbell is a pretty big change. so moderate. rrrrrr. . . .

Schneed10 · 10-23-2006, 11:52 AM

Any time you switch QBs, I can't call that a minimal change. I want to see them go to Campbell next season which can only be described as moderate in my eyes.

I want to keep the same schemes, keep the same coaches, keep the same offensive line, keep Portis, Moss, Cooley, Lloyd, ARE, Sellers. I'd get Rocky ready to play, maybe upgrade Lemar Marshall, play Carter only on passing downs, play Archuleta only on running downs, and DEFINITELY get a real good CB.

But the biggest change I want to see is a complete shift in philosophy, getting away from acquiring players through free agency and start acquiring them through the draft. I want to see us acquiring picks, not trading them away. That would be a pretty big shift in the way the team is managed.

Chief X_Phackter · 10-23-2006, 11:58 AM

At this point, I have to say minimal changes considering we don't know how the rest of the season will play out. Probably need to address both lines, make the quarterback change, and go after a studly DB. That being said, I do still think there's time to gel this year if we can manage to get healthy and go out there and play like we want to win.

dmek25 · 10-23-2006, 11:59 AM

i said moderate, but maybe some of that can start right now. somewhere along the line the skins need to find out if Campbell can play in this league, because this is definitely brunells last season. lets see if our offense looks any different with a quarterback that actually throws the ball down field. and we desparately need a corner that can cover. a defensive end that can actually get to the qbck would be nice, also

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 12:44 PM

the defense seems like its already blown up. so blowing it up again wouldn't hurt it. maybe Gray could go as the DB coach.

i think the offense only needs to change one guy. you can guess.

SmootSmack · 10-23-2006, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

i think the offense only needs to change one guy. you can guess.

Chris Samuels? I agree man, bring back Jake!!

GTripp0012 · 10-23-2006, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Any time you switch QBs, I can't call that a minimal change. I want to see them go to Campbell next season which can only be described as moderate in my eyes.

I want to keep the same schemes, keep the same coaches, keep the same offensive line, keep Portis, Moss, Cooley, Lloyd, ARE, Sellers. I'd get Rocky ready to play, maybe upgrade Lemar Marshall, play Carter only on passing downs, play Archuleta only on running downs, and DEFINITELY get a real good CB.

But the biggest change I want to see is a complete shift in philosophy, getting away from acquiring players through free agency and start acquiring them through the draft. I want to see us acquiring picks, not trading them away. That would be a pretty big shift in the way the team is managed.

I'd agree with this. I think the Campbell era will start in training camp last year. (Not that he won't play this year, but this isn't his team) The fact that they keep trading picks away compromises the future, and you'd be a fool to think there isn't some extra pressure on the team to win now that indirectly affects the game.

It's not like they haven't done a good job drafting both early and late. Dockery, Sean Taylor, Montgomery, Golston, Betts, Marshall and Pierce as UDFAs all came from the draft. It's not like there is even a problem with trading picks for role players. It's that every time we make a deal, we get far sub par league average value for our pick.

That Guy · 10-23-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I'd agree with this. I think the Campbell era will start in training camp last year. (Not that he won't play this year, but this isn't his team) The fact that they keep trading picks away compromises the future, and you'd be a fool to think there isn't some extra pressure on the team to win now that indirectly affects the game.

It's not like they haven't done a good job drafting both early and late. Dockery, Sean Taylor, Montgomery, Golston, Betts, Marshall and Pierce as UDFAs all came from the draft. It's not like there is even a problem with trading picks for role players. It's that every time we make a deal, we get far sub par league average value for our pick.

it's not that they aren't picking decent people, but they're not picking enough, and the big mistakes on FAs are a horrible disadvantage going foward. Our hit rate just isn't high enough to compete with good teams right now.

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Chris Samuels? I agree man, bring back Jake!!

Jansen and Samuels like to run block, not pass protect. especially for the time it takes Brunell to feel confident enough about his arm and the recievers openess to actually throw the ball. and when he does, it's only a 6yd play so its wash, rinse, repeat over and over, and thats on a GOOD drive.

redsk1 · 10-23-2006, 01:15 PM

I believe a moderate change in philosophy is needed by the skins. What i mean by that is a balance b/n building thru the draft and FA. I believe that building thru FA has cost us chemistry and more importantly DEPTH. When you pick up depth thru FA you are getting others castoffs. There is a reason that teams let people go most of the time. Seeing we have minimal picks next year it might take awhile to fix this.

We also need a quarterback that can take us to the next level. Brunell can't. Campbell is a MAJOR question mark at this point.

Whoever makes the personel decisions needs to stop making personel decisions and get someone who knows what they are doing. Next time we overpay for a pash rusher, it better be for someone that resembles a Dwight Freeney. The next time we overpay for a safety they better be able to cover too.

Gotta go too many things to list...

View Poll Results: The Redskins offseason plan for 2007 should be...
Major changes in personnel and coaches, blow it all up	3	4.62%
Moderate changes	31	47.69%
Minimal changes	28	43.08%
No changes at all	3	4.62%
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10-23-2006, 11:14 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,581	Offseason plan for 2007 Sucks to be talking 2007 in October, but that's the hand we've been dealt. Vote and discuss. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-23-2006, 11:18 AM	#2
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 42 Posts: 2,762	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 minimal -- consistency/stability is key. I'd like to have some more restraint in FA this offseason. __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

10-23-2006, 11:32 AM	#4
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 Minimal...we still have a VERY good core group of players to still build around. I dont really get why its not working this year; but I think if we keep these guys around, JC plays well at QB, we could be alright. __________________ #21

10-23-2006, 11:38 AM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 moderate, we need to change out at least 3-4 defensive starters, and QB. the coaching staff needs to be pared down.

10-23-2006, 11:48 AM	#6
T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R. Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 94	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 moderate. wanted to say minimal (stability would be so nice) but Campbell is a pretty big change. so moderate. rrrrrr. . . .

10-23-2006, 11:52 AM	#7
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,427	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 Any time you switch QBs, I can't call that a minimal change. I want to see them go to Campbell next season which can only be described as moderate in my eyes. I want to keep the same schemes, keep the same coaches, keep the same offensive line, keep Portis, Moss, Cooley, Lloyd, ARE, Sellers. I'd get Rocky ready to play, maybe upgrade Lemar Marshall, play Carter only on passing downs, play Archuleta only on running downs, and DEFINITELY get a real good CB. But the biggest change I want to see is a complete shift in philosophy, getting away from acquiring players through free agency and start acquiring them through the draft. I want to see us acquiring picks, not trading them away. That would be a pretty big shift in the way the team is managed. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

10-23-2006, 11:58 AM	#8
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,622	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 At this point, I have to say minimal changes considering we don't know how the rest of the season will play out. Probably need to address both lines, make the quarterback change, and go after a studly DB. That being said, I do still think there's time to gel this year if we can manage to get healthy and go out there and play like we want to win.

10-23-2006, 11:59 AM	#9
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 i said moderate, but maybe some of that can start right now. somewhere along the line the skins need to find out if Campbell can play in this league, because this is definitely brunells last season. lets see if our offense looks any different with a quarterback that actually throws the ball down field. and we desparately need a corner that can cover. a defensive end that can actually get to the qbck would be nice, also __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-23-2006, 12:44 PM	#10
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 the defense seems like its already blown up. so blowing it up again wouldn't hurt it. maybe Gray could go as the DB coach. i think the offense only needs to change one guy. you can guess. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-23-2006, 01:15 PM	#15
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Offseason plan for 2007 I believe a moderate change in philosophy is needed by the skins. What i mean by that is a balance b/n building thru the draft and FA. I believe that building thru FA has cost us chemistry and more importantly DEPTH. When you pick up depth thru FA you are getting others castoffs. There is a reason that teams let people go most of the time. Seeing we have minimal picks next year it might take awhile to fix this. We also need a quarterback that can take us to the next level. Brunell can't. Campbell is a MAJOR question mark at this point. Whoever makes the personel decisions needs to stop making personel decisions and get someone who knows what they are doing. Next time we overpay for a pash rusher, it better be for someone that resembles a Dwight Freeney. The next time we overpay for a safety they better be able to cover too. Gotta go too many things to list...

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