QB or defense: what's the bigger problem?

MTK · 10-23-2006, 03:32 PM

vote and discuss

Which area is the biggest problem right now?

Brunell or the defense?

If you could fix one but not the other, which one would result in the greatest overall improvement?

The Zimmermans · 10-23-2006, 03:34 PM

defense is always a huge concern, good defense could jump start brunell, good qb might just delay the inevitable, giving up points. I feel like our D is unable to keep a lead, no matter how big it is.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-23-2006, 03:37 PM

I can't believe I'm saying this, but defense IS the bigger problem..."right now". Once Rogers gets back and we finally have both starting corners healthy again, we will see that defense we briefly saw against the Bengals.

D'BOYZ · 10-23-2006, 03:42 PM

defently defense, if you could stop other teams brunnel could win the game, or secure a lead he can't get in a touchdown frenzy he doesn't has it anymore.

That Guy · 10-23-2006, 03:43 PM

defense "right now" but at full strength, it's clearly QB.

put out campbell, and if he's just as terrible, then at least we'll know. but maybe, just maybe, there'll be some promise there.

ArtMonkDrillz · 10-23-2006, 03:43 PM

The defense is obviously a huge problem right now but I still voted for the QB. The offense can barely substain a drive, especially in the second half when the opposing team adjusts to the short passes. These short drives give our defense little time to rest and regroup and they give the other team a shorter field to work with.
For whatever reason, our screens and dumpoff passes worked well last year and the D was able to stay off the field for longer periods of time. This teams seem to know that we can't throw deep so they stack the box and they keep the dumpoffs behind the first down markers.
I still feel that if we had a QB who could stretch a defense for the entire game things would be different.

MTK · 10-23-2006, 03:46 PM

I'd say it's gotta be the D. We can't stop anyone right now. I'm still trying to figure out how Travis Henry nearly ran for a buck eighty on us.

If the D was their usual top 10 self, I think we could be at least 4-3 right now and right in the thick of things.

As it stands right now, even with a change at QB it's not going to matter much as long as we're giving up yardage by the mile. Even if we had someone like Peyton Manning, he would have to win every game in a shootout because right now the D can't be counted on at all.

The D is now ranked near the bottom of the league, it's sad to see really.

Twilbert07 · 10-23-2006, 03:47 PM

I say Brunell because, even when the defense was letting us down in games with the Titans and Colts, Brunell disappeared in the second half. he led us to nothing, even being outplayed in the fourth quarter by a rookie two weeks ago. Brunell is not doing his job of making plays that could win us games.

Of course, the defense is pitiful this year. Please relieve Gregg Williams of his job ASAP.

ArtMonkDrillz · 10-23-2006, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If the D was their usual top 10 self, I think we could be at least 4-3 right now and right in the thick of things.

I agree with you about that. I guess it's just another wasted offseason where the FO didn't address the important problems.

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 03:48 PM

defense.

unlike the myriad problems with them, QB is one position we can actually DO something about, we just aren't.

61cad · 10-23-2006, 03:50 PM

400 yards a week!

What else needs to be said!

illdefined · 10-23-2006, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

I say Brunell because, even when the defense was letting us down in games with the Titans and Colts, Brunell disappeared in the second half. he led us to nothing, even being outplayed in the fourth quarter by a rookie two weeks ago. Brunell is not doing his job of making plays that could win us games.

Of course, the defense is pitiful this year. Please relieve Gregg Williams of his job ASAP.

Tbert, i saw your post about getting rid of Williams in another thread, i totally disagree. i don't know how you forget the last couple years here, some of the best defense in franchise history.

getting rid of him would be a HUGE mistake, injuries can happen to anybody. maybe someone else should pick the personnel (if it was indeed him who picked AA and AC) but i'd be honored if Williams took the reigns of the Redskins after Gibbs.

Schneed10 · 10-23-2006, 03:56 PM

Defense is the bigger problem. Brunell is playing the way he played last year, ultra conservative, high completion percentage, low turnover rate, low yards per attempt.

He continues to throw the ball away rather than force things. This strategy works OK when you have a great defense (10-6 last year). It works terribly when you hand the ball to the other team and allow them to march downfield for a TD.

With a better defense we would have beaten both Minnesota and Tennessee, both games were lost on the last drive. Stop Travis Henry, contain Troy Williamson, and all of a sudden we're 4-3.

Brunell is still the same QB. Won't turn it over but is conservative to a fault. Give him last year's defense and we probably win 9 or 10 games. But you can't count on a defense to dominate every year, you need a QB who can not only avoid turnovers, but also make plays.

Defense is the bigger problem, but Brunell isn't far behind.

mooby · 10-23-2006, 03:57 PM

Definitely the defense. Mark Brunell is playing decent enough to win a football game if the defense doesn't allow more than say, 15 points. But the defense puts us in this hole everytime.

Monkeydad · 10-23-2006, 03:59 PM

Defense, by FAR is our main problem right now.

2nd is offensive playcalling,then penalties and injuries.

QB is far from our biggest problem, he's doing what is being asked of him. The problem is...he's not being asked to do what we need to do to win.

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10-23-2006, 03:32 PM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? vote and discuss Which area is the biggest problem right now? Brunell or the defense? If you could fix one but not the other, which one would result in the greatest overall improvement? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-23-2006, 03:34 PM	#2
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 40 Posts: 937	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? defense is always a huge concern, good defense could jump start brunell, good qb might just delay the inevitable, giving up points. I feel like our D is unable to keep a lead, no matter how big it is. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

10-23-2006, 03:37 PM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? I can't believe I'm saying this, but defense IS the bigger problem..."right now". Once Rogers gets back and we finally have both starting corners healthy again, we will see that defense we briefly saw against the Bengals. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-23-2006, 03:42 PM	#4
D'BOYZ The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,363	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? defently defense, if you could stop other teams brunnel could win the game, or secure a lead he can't get in a touchdown frenzy he doesn't has it anymore.

10-23-2006, 03:43 PM	#5
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? defense "right now" but at full strength, it's clearly QB. put out campbell, and if he's just as terrible, then at least we'll know. but maybe, just maybe, there'll be some promise there.

10-23-2006, 03:43 PM	#6
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? The defense is obviously a huge problem right now but I still voted for the QB. The offense can barely substain a drive, especially in the second half when the opposing team adjusts to the short passes. These short drives give our defense little time to rest and regroup and they give the other team a shorter field to work with. For whatever reason, our screens and dumpoff passes worked well last year and the D was able to stay off the field for longer periods of time. This teams seem to know that we can't throw deep so they stack the box and they keep the dumpoffs behind the first down markers. I still feel that if we had a QB who could stretch a defense for the entire game things would be different. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

10-23-2006, 03:46 PM	#7
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? I'd say it's gotta be the D. We can't stop anyone right now. I'm still trying to figure out how Travis Henry nearly ran for a buck eighty on us. If the D was their usual top 10 self, I think we could be at least 4-3 right now and right in the thick of things. As it stands right now, even with a change at QB it's not going to matter much as long as we're giving up yardage by the mile. Even if we had someone like Peyton Manning, he would have to win every game in a shootout because right now the D can't be counted on at all. The D is now ranked near the bottom of the league, it's sad to see really. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-23-2006, 03:47 PM	#8
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 59 Posts: 594	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? I say Brunell because, even when the defense was letting us down in games with the Titans and Colts, Brunell disappeared in the second half. he led us to nothing, even being outplayed in the fourth quarter by a rookie two weeks ago. Brunell is not doing his job of making plays that could win us games. Of course, the defense is pitiful this year. Please relieve Gregg Williams of his job ASAP. __________________ a Skins fan every day, every way.

10-23-2006, 03:48 PM	#10
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? defense. unlike the myriad problems with them, QB is one position we can actually DO something about, we just aren't. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-23-2006, 03:50 PM	#11
61cad Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 296	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? 400 yards a week! What else needs to be said! __________________ DAMN YOU SAM HUFF, F****ING NEW YORK GIANT!

10-23-2006, 03:56 PM	#13
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,422	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? Defense is the bigger problem. Brunell is playing the way he played last year, ultra conservative, high completion percentage, low turnover rate, low yards per attempt. He continues to throw the ball away rather than force things. This strategy works OK when you have a great defense (10-6 last year). It works terribly when you hand the ball to the other team and allow them to march downfield for a TD. With a better defense we would have beaten both Minnesota and Tennessee, both games were lost on the last drive. Stop Travis Henry, contain Troy Williamson, and all of a sudden we're 4-3. Brunell is still the same QB. Won't turn it over but is conservative to a fault. Give him last year's defense and we probably win 9 or 10 games. But you can't count on a defense to dominate every year, you need a QB who can not only avoid turnovers, but also make plays. Defense is the bigger problem, but Brunell isn't far behind. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

10-23-2006, 03:57 PM	#14
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? Definitely the defense. Mark Brunell is playing decent enough to win a football game if the defense doesn't allow more than say, 15 points. But the defense puts us in this hole everytime. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

10-23-2006, 03:59 PM	#15
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: QB or defense: what's the bigger problem? Defense, by FAR is our main problem right now. 2nd is offensive playcalling,then penalties and injuries. QB is far from our biggest problem, he's doing what is being asked of him. The problem is...he's not being asked to do what we need to do to win.

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