Expect Andre Carter to Pressure Romo

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Great post SGG.

With no push up the middle QBs can easily step up and deliver. We need that push up the gut to prevent QBs from being able to do that and only then will the sacks come from the outside rush of Carter.

Sorry. I'm not buying it. The only thing preventing Carter from getting sacks is Carter himself. It's not Cornelius Griffin's fault that Andre can't get around the offensive tackle. It's not Joe Salave'a's fault that Carter can't get the edge on his opponent and at the very least hurry the quarterback into a bad throw.

Defensive ends are supposed to be effective whether the D-tackles are getting penetration or not.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Sorry. I'm not buying it. The only thing preventing Carter from getting sacks is Carter himself. It's not Cornelius Griffin's fault that Andre can't get around the offensive tackle. It's not Joe Salave'a's fault that Carter can't get the edge on his opponent and at the very least hurry the quarterback into a bad throw.

Defensive ends are supposed to be effective whether the D-tackles are getting penetration or not.

If this was true, guys like Jevon Kearse wouldn't disappear when moving from team to team, and guys like Derrick Burgess wouldn't emerge after leaving a team.

Wow, I just took two shots at the Eagles without even trying.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Sorry. I'm not buying it. The only thing preventing Carter from getting sacks is Carter himself. It's not Cornelius Griffin's fault that Andre can't get around the offensive tackle. It's not Joe Salave'a's fault that Carter can't get the edge on his opponent and at the very least hurry the quarterback into a bad throw.

Defensive ends are supposed to be effective whether the D-tackles are getting penetration or not.

It's nice to say that Carter should be effective whether the D-tackles are getting penetration or not. In my mind however, that is simply unrealistic. Teams pay a high premium for game-changing defensive ends (i.e. Dwight Freeney). While we paid Carter $30 million, we didn't pay him anywhere near what Dwight Freeney is going to get and we paid him less than half of what Jevon Kearse actually got. So, to expect Carter to be a monster even when other D-linemen aren't doing anything is simply unrealistic.

And based on my review of game-tape, Andre Carter is beating OTs on the edge. When he gets around the edge, however, the QBs aren't where they would be if the DTs were getting pressure. Perhaps your seeing something different and, if so, maybe you are right. I just haven't seen the DTs getting any inside pressure.

[The Zimmermans]

It would be nice if our linebackers could cover tight ends, even with pressure, romo will just be able to dump off to whitten, unless we learn to cover.

[illdefined]

ok, WHO is this Carter dude you guys keep talking about?

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by illdefined

ok, WHO is this Carter dude you guys keep talking about?

I think they mean Lavar Arrington

[Beemnseven]

Reasonable people can disagree, I guess. Certainly, Griffin and Salave'a aren't getting the penetration they once did. But when the defensive tackles are creating havoc and exploding through the center of the line, then they'd be the one with more sacks, not the ends. Throughout the league though, that isn't typically the case. D-ends have always collected more sacks.

Not only that, in a 4-3 defensive alignment, defensive tackles are taking on three blockers, while the ends are generally only matched up against one each.

Either way, the word now is that Andre Carter was probably better suited for linebacker, the position he was moved to in San Francisco. Looks like that was right. I can tell you this -- when checking Carter's stats after he signed here, and realizing that he averaged 4.5 sacks a year over his career, no one, including me, anticipated a "monster" coming for the quarterback. But this front office apparently did.

But he isn't even an occasional threat to the QB. And I'm not expecting any sort of miraculous explosion through the line from Griffin and Salave'a, either. From the very beginning, I viewed Salave'a as a stop-gap; a nice find who'd be good in rotation, but now he's a permanent starter, and we're witnessing about what I expected from him. Griffin was a pleasant surprise in year one as a Redskin coming off a so-so career in New York. Sooner or later, he was going to need help, and a dropoff from him was inevitable.

I just wish Gibbs, Snyder and Cerrato saw that.

[chris36]

When you watched these previous games did you notice if what they are saying about him on the run is true?

[vaoutlaws2006]

let me say this one more time...i think i have posted this at least three times...i think SF was on to something by trying to convert carter to a LB. Flozell owned AC in game one. i hope i am wrong about carter but there is only so far you can go on your father's coat tails. because at this point thats what he is riding daddy's coat tails. he, AC, has one good season in his career period.

[dmek25]

then lets zone blitz on carters side, and let him drop back into coverage. we desperately need pressure on the QB today