Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings

MTK · 11-14-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PWNED

are you the douchebag specialist for this site?

we have a long list of those lately, I think you're on it too

skinsfan69 · 11-14-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PWNED

are you the douchebag specialist for this site?

You are such a loser. Get lost.

PWNED · 11-14-2006, 04:10 PM

aw.

PWNED · 11-14-2006, 04:18 PM

you dont even KNOW me!!!! *sniffle*

skinsfan69 · 11-14-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PWNED

you dont even KNOW me!!!! *sniffle*

Your right. And I don't want to know you. You don't need to be name calling on this web-site.

That Guy · 11-14-2006, 08:00 PM

you might not like how scheed phrased his response, but it's true that letting portis go just isn't going to happen, and even if he's traded, we'd still take a huge hit for it. If we keep him, we can reduce the cap hit by backloading the contract even more (sucks for down the road) which could make him count only ~4mill this year. plus portis is good, young, and not cancerous to the team in any way.

you might not like the size of his contract (and you're right that RB is one of the easiest positions to go cheap at), but the structure pretty much ensures he'll be here for quite a while (unless we toss a year or two down the drain to clearcut all our cap issues, but i don't see that happening).

djnemo65 · 11-15-2006, 09:27 AM

I never cease to be amazed by the things people write on this site. Right, we are going to cut Portis to save money. He's one of the elite backs in the league and main leaders of our team.

irish · 11-15-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

I never cease to be amazed by the things people write on this site. Right, we are going to cut Portis to save money. He's one of the elite backs in the league and main leaders of our team.

You must have cut and pasted this from one of the LaVar threads from 2 years ago. I read all the same stuff about LaVar 2 or 3 years ago and now nobody on this site has a good thing to say about LA. It was amazing how on this site LA went from the best LB in the league and bedrock of the team to overpaid, oft injured bum.

MTK · 11-15-2006, 10:12 AM

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You must have cut and pasted this from one of the LaVar threads from 2 years ago. I read all the same stuff about LaVar 2 or 3 years ago and now nobody on this site has a good thing to say about LA. It was amazing how on this site LA went from the best LB in the league and bedrock of the team to overpaid, oft injured bum.

I know it's amazing that people's opinions changed as the circumstances changed.

Some people soured on him due to his injuries and bitching in the media. Overall though he's still a fan favorite. You're really generalizing by saying that nobody has a good thing to say about him now. I think you would find plenty of people that have good things to say about him and there is a small number of people that would have nothing good to say.

irish · 11-15-2006, 10:29 AM

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I know it's amazing that people's opinions changed as the circumstances changed.

Some people soured on him due to his injuries and bitching in the media. Overall though he's still a fan favorite. You're really generalizing by saying that nobody has a good thing to say about him now. I think you would find plenty of people that have good things to say about him and there is a small number of people that would have nothing good to say.

They soured pretty fast on the best LB in the NFL and the face of the team. I dont think LA is a fan fav at all (of skins fans) and I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a skins fan that has good thing to say about him.

I guess what my real point is is that everybody on this site said LA was untouchable and any discussion of trading/releasing him was a non-starter because he's a skin for life. In less than 1 year he was gone. The same could happen to CP. In today's NFL never say never.

MTK · 11-15-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by irish

They soured pretty fast on the best LB in the NFL and the face of the team. I dont think LA is a fan fav at all (of skins fans) and I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a skins fan that has good thing to say about him.

I guess what my real point is is that everybody on this site said LA was untouchable and any discussion of trading/releasing him was a non-starter because he's a skin for life. In less than 1 year he was gone. The same could happen to CP. In today's NFL never say never.

Overall I think your typical Skins fan wishes LaVar the best of luck in NY and are disappointed that things didn't work out for him here. If we took a poll I'd almost guarantee you that the majority of people feel that way.

As far as people turning on him, of course that could happen to anyone, Portis included. If he started bitching in the media fans would sour on him quickly. I'm not sure why that would be so surprising. That's life in the NFL and in sports in general.

MTK · 11-15-2006, 09:30 AM

Portis isn't going anywhere. End of story.

GTripp0012 · 11-15-2006, 10:00 AM

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m

These are the guys I'd even consider releasing. Anyone below on your list is too important to warrent saving less than $1 Million.

I think you have to cut one of the D ends, Fauria has been useless this year, if it came to it, we could draft a blocking TE in the 7th who is better than CF. I'd cut Rumph, Vincent, Todd Collins, John Hall, Thrash and Philip Daniels.

Brunell is the backup until we can find someone better. If such player is sitting in free agency in June, we can release MB also.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-15-2006, 10:02 AM

I'm down with the above cuts as well. I'd enjoy drafting a blocking TE. Speaking of which, don't we still have Buck Ortega on the practice squad? Don't know about his blocking, but his pass-catching ability was damn good. Honestly, I'd like us to keep Thrash. I know he counts a lot against the cap, but if we're talking abour core Redskins, he's one of them without a doubt.

redskinsfanatic · 11-15-2006, 10:36 AM

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m

i'd say that brunnell,collins,and thrash will be okay,and maybe even vincent and fauria.but the rest of them are as good as gone,especially the most overrated kicker in the history of the nfl john hall.he could'nt hit water if he fell out of a boat during a freaking hurricane!

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11-14-2006, 08:00 PM	#6
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings you might not like how scheed phrased his response, but it's true that letting portis go just isn't going to happen, and even if he's traded, we'd still take a huge hit for it. If we keep him, we can reduce the cap hit by backloading the contract even more (sucks for down the road) which could make him count only ~4mill this year. plus portis is good, young, and not cancerous to the team in any way. you might not like the size of his contract (and you're right that RB is one of the easiest positions to go cheap at), but the structure pretty much ensures he'll be here for quite a while (unless we toss a year or two down the drain to clearcut all our cap issues, but i don't see that happening).

11-15-2006, 09:27 AM	#7
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings I never cease to be amazed by the things people write on this site. Right, we are going to cut Portis to save money. He's one of the elite backs in the league and main leaders of our team.

11-15-2006, 09:30 AM	#12
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,049	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Portis isn't going anywhere. End of story. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-15-2006, 10:00 AM	#13
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Mark Brunell - $2.33 m Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m John Hall - $1.5 m Troy Vincent - $1.37 m James Thrash - $1.3 m Todd Collins - $1.25 m Christian Fauria - $1.0 m Mike Rumph - $1.0 m These are the guys I'd even consider releasing. Anyone below on your list is too important to warrent saving less than $1 Million. I think you have to cut one of the D ends, Fauria has been useless this year, if it came to it, we could draft a blocking TE in the 7th who is better than CF. I'd cut Rumph, Vincent, Todd Collins, John Hall, Thrash and Philip Daniels. Brunell is the backup until we can find someone better. If such player is sitting in free agency in June, we can release MB also. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

11-15-2006, 10:02 AM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 44 Posts: 19,264	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings I'm down with the above cuts as well. I'd enjoy drafting a blocking TE. Speaking of which, don't we still have Buck Ortega on the practice squad? Don't know about his blocking, but his pass-catching ability was damn good. Honestly, I'd like us to keep Thrash. I know he counts a lot against the cap, but if we're talking abour core Redskins, he's one of them without a doubt. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-15-2006, 10:36 AM	#15
redskinsfanatic Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 542	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Mark Brunell - $2.33 m Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m John Hall - $1.5 m Troy Vincent - $1.37 m James Thrash - $1.3 m Todd Collins - $1.25 m Christian Fauria - $1.0 m Mike Rumph - $1.0 m i'd say that brunnell,collins,and thrash will be okay,and maybe even vincent and fauria.but the rest of them are as good as gone,especially the most overrated kicker in the history of the nfl john hall.he could'nt hit water if he fell out of a boat during a freaking hurricane!

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