What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Thrash has totally outplayed him. Gibbs freaked out ( just like the Duckett trade) becsue the WR's were hurt at the end of last year. Fine. Bring in one guy. But two? Personally I would have just brough in ARE and drafted a guy in the 3rd or 4th round. Those 3rd and 4th round guys are like gold. They play teams, add depth and are kind against the cap.

I agree, a 3rd & 4th could give us some needed depth on the O & D lines, maybe an immediate starter.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think people are really blowing up this Lloyd stuff into a lot more than it really is.

I think you're right. Some players do not take losing well, and he's one of them. His behavior is a direct result of losing. There are other players on this team who are just as frustrated, they just don't display it the same way he does. I think Joe will get him to where he controls himself better, and with some work, he'll be more productive next season.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I think you're right. Some players do not take losing well, and he's one of them. His behavior is a direct result of losing. There are other players on this team who are just as frustrated, they just don't display it the same way he does. I think Joe will get him to where he controls himself better, and with some work, he'll be more productive next season.

Do you really think he so pissed because we're losing? I think it might have to do with his numbers (20 catches for 295yrds with 0 TDs), like is often seems to with WRs. If he had better numbers but the team was still losing I doubt he'd be as pissed off. I bet he threw his helmet mainly because he thought he was open and could have scored but Campbell didn't see him and threw a pick.

[mike340]

If he felt like I did watching that INT then I entirely forgive him. He wasn't just watching one game go down the tubes, he was watching any hopes for the season go down the tubes. Tough to control the feelings, especially after all the tough years in SF, then come here with great expectations, and then this.

[memphisskin]

I actually side with the FO on this one, we needed the WR depth and the guy who will probably be cut is David "Shallow Impact" Patten. Our passing game is below subpar, the Falcons played one safety deep most of the game and we still could not generate a consistent passing game.

I think our offense underutilizes Lloyd, which makes him seem overpaid. But its been said in this thread before, you can't catch what isn't thrown your way. Sure, he's dropped a few passes, but so does every wideout. The difference is that we give Lloyd a couple of looks early and then never come back to him. If/when our passing game ever opens up and becomes a "pro" passing attack, Lloyd will be stellar. Right now, its tough for anyone outside of Moss to shine because we just don't do anything well. Outside of going three and out, which we shine at.

[Cheerful1]

Lloyd was in a pissy mood from the moment he arrived to FedEx Field on Sunday. He parked diagonal (in the players lot), taking up two parking spaces. Granted, he's driven to all of the home games therefore, he KNEW better. When the security officer asked him to move his car, he gave him lip.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Cheerful1

Lloyd was in a pissy mood from the moment he arrived to FedEx Field on Sunday. He parked diagonal (in the players lot), taking up two parking spaces. Granted, he's driven to all of the home games therefore, he KNEW better. When the security officer asked him to move his car, he gave him lip.

I have to ask how do you know this?

[hooskins]

I am very sad about all this Lloyd stuff because he is one of my favorites. I love his passion, and he always seems like he does well in the few chances he gets to make plays. I think he blocks, catches, all the dirty work. I still feel he never even gets the ball thrown towards him. It is ok now, because Campbell is young, but Lloyd really got F'ed over by Brunell, who only threw to Moss and Cooley because he sucked.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I am very sad about all this Lloyd stuff because he is one of my favorites. I love his passion, and he always seems like he does well in the few chances he gets to make plays. I think he blocks, catches, all the dirty work. I still feel he never even gets the ball thrown towards him. It is ok now, because Campbell is young, but Lloyd really got F'ed over by Brunell, who only threw to Moss and Cooley because he sucked.

Yes, all Brunells fault like when JC was only looking for Moss as Colley was wide open in the middle of the field twice as we needed a quick TD. Its time we quite blamming all of our problems on MB the all mighty one JC has not shown us anything more than what MB did. OK so Brunell has more years of experence but as I always read he sucks, weak arm, scared,slow and everything else that he gets blammed for. JC has youth, strong arm, fast, tall and he cannot out produce MB who you say sucks.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yes, all Brunells fault like when JC was only looking for Moss as Colley was wide open in the middle of the field twice as we needed a quick TD. Its time we quite blamming all of our problems on MB the all mighty one JC has not shown us anything more than what MB did. OK so Brunell has more years of experence but as I always read he sucks, weak arm, scared,slow and everything else that he gets blammed for. JC has youth, strong arm, fast, tall and he cannot out produce MB who you say sucks.

I will continue to say Brunell sucks, because he does. But just because he sucks doesnt make JC automatically good. If you read my thread about JC's inexperience I clearly mention numerous flaws that Campbell has, so I have no idea where you are going with that.

EDIT: I am 30 times harshing on Brunell because he is a freaking vet, they arent suppose to play like 2nd year QBs. I expected much more out of Brunell, and I am very disappointed.

[hooskins]

Even though I feel Brunell wasnt so great, I do realize he got the short end of the stick because our D sucked. If our D plays well, then any QB looks good. I am positive if we had the D we did last year, Brunell would still be in, and we would be a playoff contender.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Even though I feel Brunell wasnt so great, I do realize he got the short end of the stick because our D sucked. If our D plays well, then any QB looks good. I am positive if we had the D we did last year, Brunell would still be in, and we would be a playoff contender.

If you but the two together. Our D could not stop anyone and our O could not stay on the field so theres enough blame to go around. But. hey theres 4 more games to go and if we win all of them and lighting strikes 1,000 times we still have a chance. LOL

[Cheerful1]

Because I was there.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Cheerful1

Because I was there.

Typical. What kind of a-hole double parks his car and then berates the parking attendent? It's just little things like that. If anyone gets a chance go to washingtonpost.com and read today's article about LLoyd. All I have to say about Lloyd is shut up and ball.

[Cheerful1]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Typical. What kind of a-hole double parks his car and then berates the parking attendent? It's just little things like that. If anyone gets a chance go to washingtonpost.com and read today's article about LLoyd. All I have to say about Lloyd is shut up and ball.

The security officer stood his ground and the end result was Lloyd moving his car to a secluded parking space, next to the fence. I guess he has little trust in his fellow teammates; as they're the only ones allowed to park in that section. (Unless he's the "whistle-blower" behind Friends article.)
Needless to say, there was probably 300 fans who witnessed the ordeal. A few spectators cracked jokes, saying that his car must be on a lease program and based on the teams preformance this year, he can't afford to pay for any scratches.